California the law reduces felonies to

[catfish]

Pretty simple actually. In California the law reduces felonies to
> misdimeanors for anyone of spanish ethnic origin whenever they can. The
> reasoning is that immigrants would be in danger if the public were in fear of
> crime from the south. You may not believe it but I have to live
> it. I've seen gang activities and assaults reduced to vagrancy and vandalism.
> I saw a young white girl arrested for domestic violence because
> the law had to arrest someone and couldn't arrest the 6 foot 225 pound
> mexican boyfriend (who it turned out was illegal). No matter what
> statistics you pull out of your ... hat... they will never be accurate with
> regards to the real violence that occurs along our southern
> border. But dont believe me, just come on down and stay awhile, bub. BAT
> You think you got problems!
>
Prison rates lower for immigrants | Santa Rosa Press Democrat // News for California's North Bay and Redwood Empire

Prison rates lower for immigrants
Study finds U.S.-born men far more likely to end up incarcerated

By SACRAMENTO BEE

Immigrants in California, including those without documents, are "far
less likely" than the native-born to end up incarcerated for crimes,
according to a study by the Public Policy Institute of California.

Analyzing prison records, researchers found native-born men in
California are incarcerated in state prisons at rates that are 2? times
greater than the foreign-born.

Immigrants are 35 percent of California's adult population, the study
notes, but only 17 percent of the state's prison population.

This gap increases when U.S. Census data from county jails and such
institutions as halfway houses are included.

The study found that among males ages 18 to 40 -- a group considered
most likely to commit crimes -- U.S.-born men are 10 times more likely
than immigrants to be imprisoned or jailed.

"There are lots of reasons to be concerned about immigration. But
spending your public safety dollars to reduce immigration is not going
to have a big impact on public safety," said economist Kristin Butcher,
co- author of the study.

The Public Policy Institute of California is a nonpartisan think tank
based in San Francisco.

"Immigration is hot right now," Butcher said, with the media and
political leaders paying close attention when an illegal immigrant is
accused of crimes.

"Calls to curtail immigration, particularly illegal immigration, appeal
to public fears about immigrants' involvement in criminal activities,"
the study says.

Yet those likely to be illegal immigrants also appear to be jailed at
lower rates than the native-born, the study found.

Because state prison and census data do not reveal if a person is
undocumented, Butcher said, researchers looked at place of birth and
citizenship status and identified a specific group to study: Non-citizen
Mexican men between 18 and 40, a group disproportionately likely to have
entered the United States illegally.

The study found U.S.-born men in this same age group were eight times
more likely to be in a correctional setting than non-citizen Mexicans.

Butcher called this finding "striking," given that the undocumented are
more likely to be young, male and have low levels of education,
characteristics generally associated with a higher tendency to commit
crime.

Butcher said researchers cross-checked findings by analyzing crime rates
in California cities that had experienced the biggest influx of
immigrants. An analysis found crime rates in those cities had dropped,
on average, between 2000 and 2005.

That finding, Butcher said, "bolstered" researchers' confidence that
their results were not skewed, for example, by immigrants avoiding jail
by leaving the country.

Butcher said that the public sometimes infers that immigrants "must be
more criminal" because 19 percent of federal inmates are foreigners, a
figure greater than immigrants' share of the U.S. population. But the
federal inmate population, Butcher said, represents only 8 percent of
the total U.S. prison population, too small a group from which to draw
conclusions.

Ruben Rumbaut, a sociologist at UC Irvine who studies immigration, said
politicians often "repeat, like a mantra" that illegal immigrants commit
a disproportionate amount of crime.

He said the public also often resists believing findings that suggest
otherwise, including his own research showing that immigrants commit
fewer crimes than U.S. citizens -- or, paradoxically, their own
U.S.-born children and grandchildren.

Sacramento County Sheriff John McGinness was "surprised a little" at
Butcher's findings but said "the vast majority of immigrants, including
the illegal, are here for a very narrow purpose, which is to make a
livelihood and send money to families."

Butcher said her study doesn't try to explain why crime rates are lower
among immigrants. But she suggested two reasons. Foreigners with crime
records aren't allowed to immigrate legally, she said, and most illegal
immigrants enter the United States to work and try to stay clean.

"If you are coming to support your family," she said, "you don't want to
get sent back for some graffiti violations."
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Then you have white and black crime. My contention is that poverty
causes most crime. The numbers below seem to confirm that theory.

2005 Stats.

Pop. Poor

Blacks 38,700,000.00 (12.3%) 8,243,100 25.8%

White 231,300,000.00 (77.1%) 18,966,600 8.2%

Hispanic 37,500,000.00 (12.%) 4,687,500 12.5%

Total 31,897,200

Poverty by race:
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...ncome_wealth/0
05647.html


Crime Stats: Table 43 - Crime in the United States 2005

Offense charged Total White Black
TOTAL 10,189,691 7,117,040 2,830,778
Percent 100.0 69.8 27.8

#of arrested / # of poor 0.3752=38% .3434=34.4%

The number of arrests tracks pretty well with the number of poor in both
groups. The similarity of 38% for whites and 34% for blacks would
indicate that poverty plays equivalent rolls in both communities.
If you find the number of hispanic arrests for 2005, divide by
4,687,5000 (the number of hispanic poor) to see if it agrees with the
above numbers.

[Panterro]

If this were true wouldn't there be more white men in prison than Mexicans and blacks? But there are not.. so this has to be a bunch of BS.

[catfish]

Originally Posted by Panterro

If this were true wouldn't there be more white men in prison than Mexicans and blacks? But there are not.. so this has to be a bunch of BS.

Sure it's BS,If anyone says their more whites in prison than Mexicans and blacks they need to wake up. these type of people that lie about the truth are trying to make their Hispanic and black buddies look good and for the most part they are anything but good.

I posted this so all can see that these kind of lies and faults sites are out their,