what Good/Bad has Bush done.

**NHYRNUT** · 01-08-2007, 11:01 PM

I know most know this, but how many things can be listed.

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-08-2007, 11:47 PM

I cannot think of any good Bush as done. The bad is that he went after the wrong country.

**milliebfit** · 01-09-2007, 07:18 AM

Good......Tax cuts made a great economy
Built up our military (lord knows we will need them, the bad guys
are not finished with us yet)
What ever he has been doing to keep us safe
Two great supreme court judges
Bad......... Spends way to much money
Glad he got saddam but needed to manage this war better

**Pensypat** · 01-09-2007, 11:29 AM

Good - nothing
Bad - made us look like idiots in the eyes of the world

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-09-2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pensypat

Good - nothing
Bad - made us look like idiots in the eyes of the world

You got that right...now the middle class pays all the bills!!!! Our taxes have risen to unlivable...price of food, water, elec, gasoline, propery taxes, insurance, everything has gone thru the roof. Only the rich have no complaints. And in case no one has heard...Al Quda or however you spell it, is now threatening to blow up every oil rig in the country, if that happens, we'll have to revert to horse and buggy and old fashioned walking!!! Have fun heating your houses too. Not to mention Bush wants to take perfectly good and working social security. He started a war and sent tons of american kids to die in a place that DID NOT ATTACK US...DIDN'T EVEN THREATEN TO ATTACK US!!! If Iraquis hated us before, guess how they feel now? Trust me...altho some hated Saddam and his rule, they have been putting up with it for alot of yrs...and there are still many who actually loved him. As an American, i don't see how the American ppl will benefit from killing Saddam! Bush has done nothing about healthcare which is just HORRIBLE!!!! The economy right now benefits Mexicans...LOL...that's about it.

**T.S.** · 01-09-2007, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pensypat

Bad - made us look like idiots in the eyes of the world

The rest of the world already thought that americans are idiots.

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-09-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.S.

The rest of the world already thought that americans are idiots.

Well they may have "thought" it, now they KNOW it for sure thanx to Bushytail....

**kimbercuddles** · 01-09-2007, 07:16 PM

I realize that I may be outnumbered, here...once again...but I don't believe Bush is the evil man that people make him out to be. He isn't perfect...remember, no one is. Don't forget, I would guess that 3/4 (at least) of the population was totally behind him after 9/11. Americans were the most united that I can remember and I'm...well, old!

There are many things that I could bring up, but here's one thing that comes to mind immediately: What is the United Nations for if no one pays attention to the laws and rules? Doesn't it bother ANYONE that people just laugh when the UN is mentioned? It wasn't as if we just attacked Iraq for no reason. How does one discipline a child? We have rules that we must abide by...if there is no punishment, why bother following the rules? How many times were we going to allow Saddam to play his games? Too many in my opinion.

The countries that don't have respect for the United States include Russia and France...let's see...oh, yeah...these are the countries who participated in the oil for food scandal...if we depend on these countries for respect, we are pathetic.

By the way, I would encourage people to do some research to find out a lot of the GOOD things that are happening in Iraq...things that the media isn't concerned with.

The bottom line is that I don't agree with everything that Bush does and I'm pretty conservative. I do think that he deserves our respect and support while he's in office - like any other President. PLEASE keep in mind that when this Iraq thing was discussed in the first place...republicans AND democrats were behind him.

I remember people being upset after the first gulf war because they didn't believe the job was "finished". People are impatient...by nature...Bush said that it was going to be a long fight and it is. Iraqui's believed that we had abandoned them after Desert Storm...now at least Saddam is gone...forever and they don't have to worry about him.

Have people forgotten how united ALL Americans were after 9/11? Bush did a GREAT job after that tragedy...and our economy did not fall apart. Can anyone give him at least that much?

People who believe that we need healthcare for everyone need to move to Canada and see how it really works.

Rainbow...just out of curiousity...which taxes are you specifically referring to when you say that Bush raised taxes? The rising cost of living, some of which you're referring to has a lot to do with the gulf being destroyed due to all of the hurricanes in 2005...do you really believe that it was Bush's fault? I know that I'll get a lot of feedback on this post, but I'm used to it from the other forum!

Be gentle, please...

**thecuban** · 01-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milliebfit

Good......Tax cuts made a great economy
Built up our military (lord knows we will need them, the bad guys
are not finished with us yet)
What ever he has been doing to keep us safe
Two great supreme court judges
Bad......... Spends way to much money
Glad he got saddam but needed to manage this war better

I agree with everything milliebfit said!!!! I like to add his moral ethics tward his wife.

**a1m1700** · 01-09-2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecuban

I agree with everything milliebfit said!!!! I like to add his moral ethics tward his wife.

Oh that's nice Cuban!

**a1m1700** · 01-09-2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pensypat

Good - nothing
Bad - made us look like idiots in the eyes of the world

Oh good a liberal! I was hoping we could get some liberals on here.

**NHYRNUT** · 01-09-2007, 11:03 PM

OK I knew I could get the forum politics going. This is what I like Views lots and lots of Views. And ppl talking it makes the forum look busy and active. Besides I like politics. NH bread I guess.

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-09-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

I realize that I may be outnumbered, here...once again...but I don't believe Bush is the evil man that people make him out to be. He isn't perfect...remember, no one is. Don't forget, I would guess that 3/4 (at least) of the population was totally behind him after 9/11. Americans were the most united that I can remember and I'm...well, old!

There are many things that I could bring up, but here's one thing that comes to mind immediately: What is the United Nations for if no one pays attention to the laws and rules? Doesn't it bother ANYONE that people just laugh when the UN is mentioned? It wasn't as if we just attacked Iraq for no reason. How does one discipline a child? We have rules that we must abide by...if there is no punishment, why bother following the rules? How many times were we going to allow Saddam to play his games? Too many in my opinion.

The countries that don't have respect for the United States include Russia and France...let's see...oh, yeah...these are the countries who participated in the oil for food scandal...if we depend on these countries for respect, we are pathetic.

By the way, I would encourage people to do some research to find out a lot of the GOOD things that are happening in Iraq...things that the media isn't concerned with.

The bottom line is that I don't agree with everything that Bush does and I'm pretty conservative. I do think that he deserves our respect and support while he's in office - like any other President. PLEASE keep in mind that when this Iraq thing was discussed in the first place...republicans AND democrats were behind him.

I remember people being upset after the first gulf war because they didn't believe the job was "finished". People are impatient...by nature...Bush said that it was going to be a long fight and it is. Iraqui's believed that we had abandoned them after Desert Storm...now at least Saddam is gone...forever and they don't have to worry about him.

Have people forgotten how united ALL Americans were after 9/11? Bush did a GREAT job after that tragedy...and our economy did not fall apart. Can anyone give him at least that much?

People who believe that we need healthcare for everyone need to move to Canada and see how it really works.

Rainbow...just out of curiousity...which taxes are you specifically referring to when you say that Bush raised taxes? The rising cost of living, some of which you're referring to has a lot to do with the gulf being destroyed due to all of the hurricanes in 2005...do you really believe that it was Bush's fault? I know that I'll get a lot of feedback on this post, but I'm used to it from the other forum!

Be gentle, please...

I don't know what taxes he cut...i just know that i do not see the economy as being good. I do not see how taking SS is going to be a good thing. I do not in any way think the La hurricane disaster was the fault of Bush or his admin...it was the fault of the gov and mayor and the ppl who refused to evacuate. Healthcare in England works...everyone is treated as equal....It makes no sense to me why Bush attacked Iraq and now he's sending 20,000 more boys over there...for what purpose? I think Bush is nuts and needs to be impeached!

Curious George · 01-10-2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

I don't know what taxes he cut...i just know that i do not see the economy as being good. I do not see how taking SS is going to be a good thing. I do not in any way think the La hurricane disaster was the fault of Bush or his admin...it was the fault of the gov and mayor and the ppl who refused to evacuate. Healthcare in England works...everyone is treated as equal....It makes no sense to me why Bush attacked Iraq and now he's sending 20,000 more boys over there...for what purpose? I think Bush is nuts and needs to be impeached!

If you want to blame these problems on bush fine ! lets get rid of all those other clowns in
Washington who can’t get the job done fire them all. we could probably save 20 Billion
Or more . They seem more worried about there own party looking good an bashing the other then they are About us. The problems in America are ALL our problems NOT
Democrat or republican.

If you are worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us I would be more mad
About what they thought when Bill got caught getting a hummer . you know the Monica deal. Pretty good conduct for the leader of the free world , maybe a little to free!
We are thee most generous nation on earth an history bar none ! We are always there to
help other countries when disasters hits .

I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us the USA! If it weren’t for us Europe
Would be speaking German! Go back an look at history, if it were not for us and our allies But moistly us the world would be much different! We didn’t want to go to war during WWII . it was said the fighting in Europe was there problem ! how about if Japan
Had not attacked us but instead hooked up with Germany finished the job in Europe
And wetted say 2 years rebuilt there armies finished there atomic program and all the other goodies they had going then said we want America to!

We have military men an women all over the world in many countries not to take them
Over but to help provide Security Freedom Peace the right to grow up as a kid an be just a kid and maybe spread a little of the American dream. We so take for granted.

Seems like we always get attacked before we do what should have been done earlier !
Iran is something we are going to half to deal with . not put our heads in the sand an hope it gets better .

So if you are mad at George Fine I haven’t agreed with everything either but I would rather have him focus on the big pitcher of world events how to keep us a free nation
Now an in the futchur!

Don forget those other people we elect are suppose to do something other then point fingers An pass meaningless look good to the public we care wear doing something BS laws

This is not a rip on you just a difference in opinion, the way I see it . Provided by all the men an women that fought for our right to disagree an not be shot!

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-10-2007, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious George

If you want to blame these problems on bush fine ! lets get rid of all those other clowns in
Washington who can’t get the job done fire them all. we could probably save 20 Billion
Or more . They seem more worried about there own party looking good an bashing the other then they are About us. The problems in America are ALL our problems NOT
Democrat or republican.

If you are worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us I would be more mad
About what they thought when Bill got caught getting a hummer . you know the Monica deal. Pretty good conduct for the leader of the free world , maybe a little to free!
We are thee most generous nation on earth an history bar none ! We are always there to
help other countries when disasters hits .

I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us the USA! If it weren’t for us Europe
Would be speaking German! Go back an look at history, if it were not for us and our allies But moistly us the world would be much different! We didn’t want to go to war during WWII . it was said the fighting in Europe was there problem ! how about if Japan
Had not attacked us but instead hooked up with Germany finished the job in Europe
And wetted say 2 years rebuilt there armies finished there atomic program and all the other goodies they had going then said we want America to!

We have military men an women all over the world in many countries not to take them
Over but to help provide Security Freedom Peace the right to grow up as a kid an be just a kid and maybe spread a little of the American dream. We so take for granted.

Seems like we always get attacked before we do what should have been done earlier !
Iran is something we are going to half to deal with . not put our heads in the sand an hope it gets better .

So if you are mad at George Fine I haven’t agreed with everything either but I would rather have him focus on the big pitcher of world events how to keep us a free nation
Now an in the futchur!

Don forget those other people we elect are suppose to do something other then point fingers An pass meaningless look good to the public we care wear doing something BS laws

This is not a rip on you just a difference in opinion, the way I see it . Provided by all the men an women that fought for our right to disagree an not be shot!

lol...You didn't mention BinLaden at all...mmmmmmm?

Curious George · 01-10-2007, 03:54 PM

That’s it that’s all you got ! week very week!!! Theirs allot of things I didn’t say , I had to get back to work. But you can bet your bottom I will be saying it in the future!

Oh an by the way I’m sorry I didn’t fill it with all the content mater you thought I should have . Impeach me!

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-10-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious George

That’s it that’s all you got ! week very week!!! Theirs allot of things I didn’t say , I had to get back to work. But you can bet your bottom I will be saying it in the future!

Oh an by the way I’m sorry I didn’t fill it with all the content mater you thought I should have . Impeach me!

Well the most important thinf of it all is BinLaden...he was the one who ordered 9/11.....no one else.

Curious George · 01-10-2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

Well the most important thinf of it all is BinLaden...he was the one who ordered 9/11.....no one else.

True he did ! But Ben laden is just a part of a much bigger problem. That whole part of the world lives by a warier an very violent type of mentality. I don’t like what you do or believe I shoot you an maybe your family to. These kids are thought hatred from a very young age and Ben laden is just one of many that is a by product of that. We should have
Ben doing a better job trying to curve the hatred back in the fifties. When we wear selling arms to the Shaw they should have been some form human rights for his people maybe then they would of overthrown him . All they did was trade one form of oppression for another with there religious leaders. Any way those sob’s Will kill any body any ware an not think twice about it all in the name of there cause. You see it every day . I don’t know all the answers but I do believe fighting them over there an killing as many whacked out hate filled subside brainwashed idiot is better then one subside attack at a time over hear. Just my opinion!

**kimbercuddles** · 01-10-2007, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious George

If you want to blame these problems on bush fine ! lets get rid of all those other clowns in
Washington who can’t get the job done fire them all. we could probably save 20 Billion
Or more . They seem more worried about there own party looking good an bashing the other then they are About us. The problems in America are ALL our problems NOT
Democrat or republican.

If you are worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us I would be more mad
About what they thought when Bill got caught getting a hummer . you know the Monica deal. Pretty good conduct for the leader of the free world , maybe a little to free!
We are thee most generous nation on earth an history bar none ! We are always there to
help other countries when disasters hits .

I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us the USA! If it weren’t for us Europe
Would be speaking German! Go back an look at history, if it were not for us and our allies But moistly us the world would be much different! We didn’t want to go to war during WWII . it was said the fighting in Europe was there problem ! how about if Japan
Had not attacked us but instead hooked up with Germany finished the job in Europe
And wetted say 2 years rebuilt there armies finished there atomic program and all the other goodies they had going then said we want America to!

We have military men an women all over the world in many countries not to take them
Over but to help provide Security Freedom Peace the right to grow up as a kid an be just a kid and maybe spread a little of the American dream. We so take for granted.

Seems like we always get attacked before we do what should have been done earlier !
Iran is something we are going to half to deal with . not put our heads in the sand an hope it gets better .

So if you are mad at George Fine I haven’t agreed with everything either but I would rather have him focus on the big pitcher of world events how to keep us a free nation
Now an in the futchur!

Don forget those other people we elect are suppose to do something other then point fingers An pass meaningless look good to the public we care wear doing something BS laws

This is not a rip on you just a difference in opinion, the way I see it . Provided by all the men an women that fought for our right to disagree an not be shot!

Very well said, Curious...there is a lot more to the "big picture" than what most people see. Kudos to a fellow Minnesotan!

**kimbercuddles** · 01-10-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

I don't know what taxes he cut...i just know that i do not see the economy as being good. I do not see how taking SS is going to be a good thing. I do not in any way think the La hurricane disaster was the fault of Bush or his admin...it was the fault of the gov and mayor and the ppl who refused to evacuate. Healthcare in England works...everyone is treated as equal....It makes no sense to me why Bush attacked Iraq and now he's sending 20,000 more boys over there...for what purpose? I think Bush is nuts and needs to be impeached!

Rainbow...with all due respect...you mentioned the first time that Bush raised taxes and as far as I am aware...that is untrue. Can you be a little more specific? The social security mess is something that quite a few presidents have pushed under the rug for some time, so I don't believe that all falls on President Bush.

I'm glad to see that you don't blame Bush or the admin. for Hurricane Katrina and I do agree with you regarding that situation.

From what I understand, this is pretty much Bush's last chance for redemption...he wants to send 20,000 more troops over (not all in Baghdad) to stabilize the areas. A substantial amount is proposed to be "in waiting" by Kuwait, for assurance purposes. The plan, as I understand, is for the troops to drive away the insurgents and remain there to actually make sure they don't return; they used to go through in waves and not totally secure the areas because we thought the Iraqui's would be able to defend themselves.

One other thing to keep in mind is that this process is unlike anything that Iraq has ever gone through before...it's similar to a child being raised in an abusive environment...a lot of times that child is afraid and timid. Once he/she has escaped that environment, it takes a substantial amount of time to realize that not all people are hurtful and cruel. The Iraqui's are just now realizing that Saddam is now gone forever and they do have an excellent chance of living a life of freedom.

Saddam Hussein kept disregarding the rules of the United Nations and most countries believed he had weapons of mass destruction. I'm guessing they are possibly somewhere in Syria, but we'll probably never know, now. That was the reason Bush, republicans and democrats agreed to invade Iraq. It was an overwhelming majority, if you remember.

I don't want to write another book, here, but what specifically has Bush done to want you have him impeached? There are a lot of Presidents who have made many mistakes, but impeachment is extremely serious.

Thanks for keeping with this conversation, though, I think it helps people see all sides of the American people...and it makes us dig into things a little deeper.

**a1m1700** · 01-10-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious George

If you want to blame these problems on bush fine ! lets get rid of all those other clowns in
Washington who can’t get the job done fire them all. we could probably save 20 Billion
Or more . They seem more worried about there own party looking good an bashing the other then they are About us. The problems in America are ALL our problems NOT
Democrat or republican.

If you are worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us I would be more mad
About what they thought when Bill got caught getting a hummer . you know the Monica deal. Pretty good conduct for the leader of the free world , maybe a little to free!
We are thee most generous nation on earth an history bar none ! We are always there to
help other countries when disasters hits .

I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us the USA! If it weren’t for us Europe
Would be speaking German! Go back an look at history, if it were not for us and our allies But moistly us the world would be much different! We didn’t want to go to war during WWII . it was said the fighting in Europe was there problem ! how about if Japan
Had not attacked us but instead hooked up with Germany finished the job in Europe
And wetted say 2 years rebuilt there armies finished there atomic program and all the other goodies they had going then said we want America to!

We have military men an women all over the world in many countries not to take them
Over but to help provide Security Freedom Peace the right to grow up as a kid an be just a kid and maybe spread a little of the American dream. We so take for granted.

Seems like we always get attacked before we do what should have been done earlier !
Iran is something we are going to half to deal with . not put our heads in the sand an hope it gets better .

So if you are mad at George Fine I haven’t agreed with everything either but I would rather have him focus on the big pitcher of world events how to keep us a free nation
Now an in the futchur!

Don forget those other people we elect are suppose to do something other then point fingers An pass meaningless look good to the public we care wear doing something BS laws

This is not a rip on you just a difference in opinion, the way I see it . Provided by all the men an women that fought for our right to disagree an not be shot!

Wow!! Who are you? Sounds like I wrote this. I wonder if I was sleep walking. Nice post George

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-10-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

Rainbow...with all due respect...you mentioned the first time that Bush raised taxes and as far as I am aware...that is untrue. Can you be a little more specific? The social security mess is something that quite a few presidents have pushed under the rug for some time, so I don't believe that all falls on President Bush.

I'm glad to see that you don't blame Bush or the admin. for Hurricane Katrina and I do agree with you regarding that situation.

From what I understand, this is pretty much Bush's last chance for redemption...he wants to send 20,000 more troops over (not all in Baghdad) to stabilize the areas. A substantial amount is proposed to be "in waiting" by Kuwait, for assurance purposes. The plan, as I understand, is for the troops to drive away the insurgents and remain there to actually make sure they don't return; they used to go through in waves and not totally secure the areas because we thought the Iraqui's would be able to defend themselves.

One other thing to keep in mind is that this process is unlike anything that Iraq has ever gone through before...it's similar to a child being raised in an abusive environment...a lot of times that child is afraid and timid. Once he/she has escaped that environment, it takes a substantial amount of time to realize that not all people are hurtful and cruel. The Iraqui's are just now realizing that Saddam is now gone forever and they do have an excellent chance of living a life of freedom.

Saddam Hussein kept disregarding the rules of the United Nations and most countries believed he had weapons of mass destruction. I'm guessing they are possibly somewhere in Syria, but we'll probably never know, now. That was the reason Bush, republicans and democrats agreed to invade Iraq. It was an overwhelming majority, if you remember.

I don't want to write another book, here, but what specifically has Bush done to want you have him impeached? There are a lot of Presidents who have made many mistakes, but impeachment is extremely serious.

Thanks for keeping with this conversation, though, I think it helps people see all sides of the American people...and it makes us dig into things a little deeper.

In no meaningful sense has George W. Bush reduced the tax burden. In no meaningful sense has he kept any promise. George W. Bush has kept his promise to cut taxes in the same way that a spouse who decides to "save money" by making only the minimum required payment on the VISA bill has kept a promise to reduce household spending. As Milton Friedman puts it, to spend is to tax. Bush's spending increases - defense, Iraq, the Republican porkfest, the Medicare drug benefit - are still there, just as things you have charged to your VISA don't go away if you make only the minimum monthly payment. What George W. Bush has done has been to shift taxes from the present to the future - and also made future taxes uncertain, random, and thus extra-costly from a standard public finance view. Please tell me which tax cuts benefit you...As i mentioned, Bush went to war with the wrong country...the only thing accomplised was getting a dictator who was a bother to only his ppl....many soldiers have died to fight for democracy where most do not give a rats ass about one way or another and now he is sending more soldiers to slaughter and causing more havoc to our spending and with the possiblity of AlQaida blowing up oil rigs....that will throw our country into a huge crisis...grounds for inpeachment.
http://www.cbpp.org/9-19-05tax.htm

**NHYRNUT** · 01-11-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious George

If you want to blame these problems on bush fine ! lets get rid of all those other clowns in
Washington who can’t get the job done fire them all. we could probably save 20 Billion
Or more . They seem more worried about there own party looking good an bashing the other then they are About us. The problems in America are ALL our problems NOT
Democrat or republican.

If you are worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us I would be more mad
About what they thought when Bill got caught getting a hummer . you know the Monica deal. Pretty good conduct for the leader of the free world , maybe a little to free!
We are thee most generous nation on earth an history bar none ! We are always there to
help other countries when disasters hits .

I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us the USA! If it weren’t for us Europe
Would be speaking German! Go back an look at history, if it were not for us and our allies But moistly us the world would be much different! We didn’t want to go to war during WWII . it was said the fighting in Europe was there problem ! how about if Japan
Had not attacked us but instead hooked up with Germany finished the job in Europe
And wetted say 2 years rebuilt there armies finished there atomic program and all the other goodies they had going then said we want America to!

We have military men an women all over the world in many countries not to take them
Over but to help provide Security Freedom Peace the right to grow up as a kid an be just a kid and maybe spread a little of the American dream. We so take for granted.

Seems like we always get attacked before we do what should have been done earlier !
Iran is something we are going to half to deal with . not put our heads in the sand an hope it gets better .

So if you are mad at George Fine I haven’t agreed with everything either but I would rather have him focus on the big pitcher of world events how to keep us a free nation
Now an in the futchur!

Don forget those other people we elect are suppose to do something other then point fingers An pass meaningless look good to the public we care wear doing something BS laws

This is not a rip on you just a difference in opinion, the way I see it . Provided by all the men an women that fought for our right to disagree an not be shot!

WOW awsome post. I must admit you are good. But don't beat up the Other view to bad, if they leave we will have noone to debate with. Once the forum gets going have fun lol.

**a1m1700** · 01-11-2007, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHYRNUT

WOW awsome post. I must admit you are good. But don't beat up the Other view to bad, if they leave we will have noone to debate with. Once the forum gets going have fun lol.

Yeah that's what I was gonna say, we need more libs besides Rainbow and Candyapple.

**kimbercuddles** · 01-11-2007, 11:34 PM

What we're trying to say, I think, is that it's great to have the other side on this forum...we have strong views, but I can vouch for the conservative's "civil" way of debate...just because we TOTALLY disagree with most of what you say doesn't mean we can't be GREAT friends, right? I really mean that.

One of the things that really bothers me is that most of the research done regarding these views and statements is done via the internet. Unfortunately, like the media, most of the sites people read are very liberal and a lot of times not totally accurate as well as some conservative sites, also. How do we know what's true and what isn't?

Oh...and I just heard that the democrats who said we should send more troops because what we are doing is not working are NOT supporting the President and the 20,000 new troops. Do they have a plan? Of course not. The problem is that they say we need to listen to the American people...it's too bad that the conservatives aren't quite as loud and obnoxious as the liberals...of course they can't hear us!?!

RAINBOWWAVES · 01-11-2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1m1700

Yeah that's what I was gonna say, we need more libs besides Rainbow and Candyapple.

I am so far removed from being a lib...i don't know what makes you think this.

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RAINBOWWAVES Banned Join Date: Oct 18th, 2006 Posts: 713	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. I cannot think of any good Bush as done. The bad is that he went after the wrong country.

01-09-2007, 07:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
milliebfit Member Join Date: Oct 18th, 2006 Posts: 146	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. Good......Tax cuts made a great economy Built up our military (lord knows we will need them, the bad guys are not finished with us yet) What ever he has been doing to keep us safe Two great supreme court judges Bad......... Spends way to much money Glad he got saddam but needed to manage this war better

01-09-2007, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pensypat Junior Member Join Date: Dec 20th, 2006 Posts: 65	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. Good - nothing Bad - made us look like idiots in the eyes of the world

01-09-2007, 07:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
kimbercuddles Cheery Chick Join Date: Jan 02nd, 2007 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,085	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. I realize that I may be outnumbered, here...once again...but I don't believe Bush is the evil man that people make him out to be. He isn't perfect...remember, no one is. Don't forget, I would guess that 3/4 (at least) of the population was totally behind him after 9/11. Americans were the most united that I can remember and I'm...well, old! There are many things that I could bring up, but here's one thing that comes to mind immediately: What is the United Nations for if no one pays attention to the laws and rules? Doesn't it bother ANYONE that people just laugh when the UN is mentioned? It wasn't as if we just attacked Iraq for no reason. How does one discipline a child? We have rules that we must abide by...if there is no punishment, why bother following the rules? How many times were we going to allow Saddam to play his games? Too many in my opinion. The countries that don't have respect for the United States include Russia and France...let's see...oh, yeah...these are the countries who participated in the oil for food scandal...if we depend on these countries for respect, we are pathetic. By the way, I would encourage people to do some research to find out a lot of the GOOD things that are happening in Iraq...things that the media isn't concerned with. The bottom line is that I don't agree with everything that Bush does and I'm pretty conservative. I do think that he deserves our respect and support while he's in office - like any other President. PLEASE keep in mind that when this Iraq thing was discussed in the first place...republicans AND democrats were behind him. I remember people being upset after the first gulf war because they didn't believe the job was "finished". People are impatient...by nature...Bush said that it was going to be a long fight and it is. Iraqui's believed that we had abandoned them after Desert Storm...now at least Saddam is gone...forever and they don't have to worry about him. Have people forgotten how united ALL Americans were after 9/11? Bush did a GREAT job after that tragedy...and our economy did not fall apart. Can anyone give him at least that much? People who believe that we need healthcare for everyone need to move to Canada and see how it really works. Rainbow...just out of curiousity...which taxes are you specifically referring to when you say that Bush raised taxes? The rising cost of living, some of which you're referring to has a lot to do with the gulf being destroyed due to all of the hurricanes in 2005...do you really believe that it was Bush's fault? I know that I'll get a lot of feedback on this post, but I'm used to it from the other forum! Be gentle, please...

01-09-2007, 11:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
NHYRNUT Dreams, the reality? Join Date: Dec 23rd, 2006 Location: NH Posts: 531	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. OK I knew I could get the forum politics going. This is what I like Views lots and lots of Views. And ppl talking it makes the forum look busy and active. Besides I like politics. NH bread I guess.

01-10-2007, 03:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
Curious George Banned Join Date: Jan 08th, 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 972	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. That’s it that’s all you got ! week very week!!! Theirs allot of things I didn’t say , I had to get back to work. But you can bet your bottom I will be saying it in the future! Oh an by the way I’m sorry I didn’t fill it with all the content mater you thought I should have . Impeach me!

01-11-2007, 11:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
kimbercuddles Cheery Chick Join Date: Jan 02nd, 2007 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,085	Re: what Good/Bad has Bush done. What we're trying to say, I think, is that it's great to have the other side on this forum...we have strong views, but I can vouch for the conservative's "civil" way of debate...just because we TOTALLY disagree with most of what you say doesn't mean we can't be GREAT friends, right? I really mean that. One of the things that really bothers me is that most of the research done regarding these views and statements is done via the internet. Unfortunately, like the media, most of the sites people read are very liberal and a lot of times not totally accurate as well as some conservative sites, also. How do we know what's true and what isn't? Oh...and I just heard that the democrats who said we should send more troops because what we are doing is not working are NOT supporting the President and the 20,000 new troops. Do they have a plan? Of course not. The problem is that they say we need to listen to the American people...it's too bad that the conservatives aren't quite as loud and obnoxious as the liberals...of course they can't hear us!?!