"Wyod-O-Pan" (wide-open)

[Panterro]

Admin,

When will our forum be ready for our first Talk State broadcast? =)

[Wyody]

Originally Posted by Panterro

Admin,

When will our forum be ready for our first Talk State broadcast? =)

Here's some Wyo-dope, Pan .
I was listening to a little of Izzy's "Lum and Abner" stuff. Obviously from a time long ago when maybe they already had television but nobody could yet figure out what all the pictures meant. I kept imagining a young Mickey Rooney as a ventriloquist with a dummy that looked just like him - and they couldn't agree on what to talk about.
I'm thinking that this may be the first time Miss Izzy has crossed me. I'm sharpening my crossbow ammo even as I write this - which reminds me, it's about time to re-order some crossbow ammo and some front screen-door springs to go with it ... and maybe you don't understand but I'll tell you:
I've been using one of those crossbows that's powered by a 22 handgun - but the 22 bullets just supplied too much power and kept putting the arrows clean thru the deer ... so I replaced it with one of them old dart-guns that fired rubber-tipped darts with the old "spring-fire" method ... 'cepting that wasn't quite strong enough so I re-rigged the original 22 to accept the long springs that keep your screen-door closed during fly season - and that worked a little better so far as not putting the arrow thru the deer ... however, I should mention that I had to add an extension to the handgun-barrel because the spring was too long before that.
But anyhow - I'm not too certain that I'm really smart enough to hold up my end of a "needle-and-pin" conversation ... especially if the needles are coming my way ... and especially if they are spring-fired. People like PDX and probably this new, seemingly nice Ms Anabelle would probably be able to fire back and keep up with that rootin-tootin right-wing Texan named Panterro ... except dogonnit, they probably don't know how to keep from hurtin' a Scorpio's feelings like another Scorpio does ... but then again, truth is, one Scorpio couldn't give a ding-dang about another because not only is everybody in the world wrong except a Scorpio ... all the other Scorpios are wrong too - dumber than a bucket of rocks!
All I hope for is that I'm not Abner - and I'm really not sure what to say about Miss Izzy - I suppose it comes down to what your definition of IZZ is!

[the dufferz]

Wyody,

Izzy certainly did not cross you. I have listened to many seasons of my buddy's Lum and Abner and I can tell you that this was in the 40's, so no TV, and Lum and Abner was about 50 years ahead of its time. They were the original Seinfeld... no joke. The show was about... nothing. Simple conversations, Lum was the "intelect" Abner was the simple one and they owned the walmart of the day, the jot-em-down store. In one episode Lum made the purchase of a cash register. He demonstrated it to Abner by pretending they had a sale of 5 items at one cent each. It must have taken 30 seconds for him to ring up the 5 cents, while Abner had it added on his fingers in about 10 seconds hehehehe. Another episode they were out of town and when they returned they were discussing that the highlight of returning was getting all the great mail that was collected while they were gone. The whole show was them reading the mail... all were bills and junk mail... As the show close Lum said "Abner I hates getting mail"...

I could go on and on.

Duff

[Wyody]

Duff - I don't feel attacked by Izzy. Just conversing.

You and Izz must both be a couple of years older than me. I find that everybody 4 years or so older remembers the radio-shows.
I didn't catch them. No "Shadow Knows", No attachment to "Dr Who".
My Lone Ranger & Tonto was on TV. My Cowboy was Roy Rogers with occasional peeks backwards to Hop-a-long Cassidy. My Amos & Andy made appearances on the Danny Thomas Show along with that "Call for Phillip Morris" guy and the Nestles-Chocolate Dog with a mirror over it's eyes.
No Ma & Pa Kettle.
Although - while "homesteading" in southern Utah and living in the mountains for a few years, Garrison Keiler and Prairie-Home-Companion became a regular fixture as did CBS Mystery Theater on the radio ... along with dawn-to-dusk rock-and-roll from the radio station at Window Rock, AZ.
I feel like I missed something important.

[isabel]

Whooow, back up Wyody. Duff got my mood and drift. My mood at the time of writing this was we can always count on you & pan's conversation to make life interesting. But the two of you are predictable in your conversations with each other...kinda of like two old guys playing chess in front of the barber shop...arguing about the pretty lady across the street, and who did she wave too:) You can come back any day and time and the two of you will still be at it.:)

Love the old radio shows and Lum and Abner is one of my favorite. Because it gives that old time feel of conversation in front of the store:) Kind of the hometown feel. Just like here. Ssssssshhhhhh! Put that arrow thing down and learn to accept a compliment on making this place feel like home.

Wyody, You posted while I was writing. Glad you didn't take offense

Catch you later.

Izzy

[Wyody]

Hmmm ... I didn't know Pan played chess. Does he play on the clock? Can I count on a beer or two? Would that be 40/2 and 1 to finish? Can I let him go first? I'd love to clean his clock playing black - I like to clean anybody's clock playing black.
Oh crap - what am I talking about? None of my old chess-partners are even still alive ... well, maybe one but haven't seen him in 15 years. My only chess partner for the past 10 years sits directly under the crossword books in the bathroom - still managing to collect dust (got tired of beating machines) even under the books.
Nah - Pan is in Texas. Chess is outlawed in Texas, isn't it?

[Panterro]

Nope I don't play chess.. not enough violence in it for me. =) Y.O.Dee and me never go at it.. we just have different points of view and are not afraid to show them. Y.O.Dee likes to obfuscate his in a twist of mangled words and jargon, and I tend to just bash the point home. Maybe we can change his name to Pay-O-Dee.. since most of his ramblings seem to come from a man on the stuff, and then his avatar would match his name. HA!

Sorry Pay-O-Dee ( Payody or Pyody), I could not help myself. I consider him a good buddy, one that I can argue with and then hang out with and I am sure if he and I were at the same bar, and someone called him a vile name I would be the first to jump to his defense with a "Only I can call him that, take it back or feel my rather stranger" comment.

[Admin]

Originally Posted by Panterro

Admin,

When will our forum be ready for our first Talk State broadcast? =)

Broadcast?

That is probably far into the future if ever.

[Wyody]

Originally Posted by Panterro

Nope I don't play chess.. not enough violence in it for me. =) Y.O.Dee and me never go at it.. we just have different points of view and are not afraid to show them. Y.O.Dee likes to obfuscate his in a twist of mangled words and jargon, and I tend to just bash the point home. Maybe we can change his name to Pay-O-Dee.. since most of his ramblings seem to come from a man on the stuff, and then his avatar would match his name. HA!

Sorry Pay-O-Dee ( Payody or Pyody), I could not help myself. I consider him a good buddy, one that I can argue with and then hang out with and I am sure if he and I were at the same bar, and someone called him a vile name I would be the first to jump to his defense with a "Only I can call him that, take it back or feel my rather stranger" comment.

It's "Peyote". A truly natural and organic substance ... and yes, I was introduced to it. First by a Hopi elder and much later by an elder of the Choctaw. Again by a college roommate. I would never advise taking it without a legitimate elder there as for the unguided, it can have harmful side-effects. One friend (of Shoshone extraction) still feels "chased by ghosts" many years afterward. Not that one can't do it and get by with it themselves ... just might not be a good idea. Besides, it is somewhat illegal for most folks. I would also say, in general terms that it's not a "drug for entertainment".
It was enlightening. Like reading a great book about something you never imagined before ... except in my case, I was already a student of Theologies and was in "a good place" for the adventures. It was a tool for my "vision quest" and my "name quest" and my "totem quest".
Yes Pan, it has made a difference in my thinking over the years and No, I can't just grab your hand and help you jump over the log to see what lies beyond - it is a climb you would need to have tailored to best suit yourself.
No, it doesn't make me better or smarter or wiser - it only means I've seen some things that some others may not have seen - perhaps a little like peeking behind a curtain at an opera or a play and seeing entire sets not being shown in the current show - but meant for the show that comes in next week.
Now, that being said with some degree of irrelevence I must say that I do sometimes notice similarities between us - and occasionally I shudder at the notion that we must, somehow be related because I'm of the opinion that only family can rile one to our heights.
Oh - one other thing ... peyote comes from a cactus-style plant ... probably some growing near you (or not too far south) - so, it would not resemble my avatar. In fact, even the "stuff" you're referring to doesn't match my avatar - although I want to jokingly ask if anybody has any papers. Always wondered why they called pot "grass" - don't look anything like grass ... and I don't even know why they call it "pot" - doesn't look like pots OR potatoes - and then there's that "Mary Jane" thing ... uh ... just who the Hell was Mary Jane?? - but once we start with the "drug-comics", all logic goes out the window; for instance "Blow" ... who EVER blew it?
Well, the point was not to talk at such length about drugs or "tools" - it was to define distinction, to draw difference - to agree that Pan and I come from different sides of the trail ... but we continue to be ... on the same trail - with much the same hopes, flaws, schemes and dreams, stumbling over some of the very same stones and slipping on some of the very same logs and wearing out at some of the very same rest-stops. Nothing makes the road any easier except two-stepping it together.
Peace