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Old 02-08-2007, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it time for moderators?

Hi everybody,

I've noticed some of our new members have been taking off the gloves. So to speak, and things have been getting...shall we say...heated, ugly.

At what point do we, the members ask for a moderator. Or give suggestions on what to add to the forum exsisting rules. Amin. owns and runs this site. I'm guessing he doesn't want to "Have to step in" and bust those folks who forget to be civil and border on verbal threats.

Or those folks who repeatedly get off topic, to insert a post, that leads back to another topic...that folks are tired of:)

Are there any concerns about kids visiting our sites? Some of the stuff they may read? I don't know...most of us are adults...or close to it. But I was surprised to click on a link that someone posted...when I got to the other site...every foul word you could think of was posted.

I was enlightened by the post that one of our users is using a signature that is considered racial insult. Didn't know that...didn't really want to know it. I'm a mom so I always think about the kids and what they may read.

I think we should discuss the idea of moderators and rules. It is unreal to think there is a place in this world with no rules. I like rules. Keeps people civil.

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Old 02-08-2007, 01:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time for moderators?

All forums need some level of moderation. What level meets that fine balance of freedom, and civility, I don't know. It's different for every board. Until a few days ago - I was the only one saying this.. but now I have had PM's from several people who are not liking the climate here, considering leaving, thinking CD isn't so bad...


That's not to say I haven't added to it... I fully take my lumps, and accept the responsibility for my part.

As for kids - there is a way to make it that anyone under the age of 18 can't post on this board without parental permission.

I was MORE than shocked actually, to find out we have a very young teenager on these forums that apparently chats with some of the adults from this site. As a parent, I am jaw dropped... and wonder where the kids parents are??
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Most of what we post here is at an adult level. Not really meant for kids. But older teenagers do have some new and refreshing ideas. I know we have at least one that post and some of what he post is informative info. So I don't know where you would draw the age line at. But this site is definately not for younger folks. To much suggestive comments and like I said, links to adult type info on other sites.

At the very least the lounge should have an age limit on it. I think folks with kids should keep in mind.."If my child was reading this." When they type. As I'm typing I'm wondering if I was careful enough myself.

I do think folks have gotten a little ugly in the way they treat each other when arguing their points. Sometimes real ugly. I for one wish there was a little more moderating going on. Just my suggestions and views. This is not my house and not my site. I'm hoping Admin. will be open to suggestions. He has been very generous with offering us all a place to talk and have our tea.:)

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Old 02-08-2007, 03:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just an FYI for those who are curious... I am still here and will not leave. I have been so very busy and don't have time for debates here. I have noticed it is getting heated and try to stay away from those threads, only because I don't have the time to get into anything deep right now. If it can be kept to a mature debate... it is all good. But when the name calling starts and inusulting is in a serious nature... I don't want any part of it. I don't have the energy for trying to prove my point to people I really don't know. KWIM? Every one is entitled to thier own views and thoughts. If we can respect that and voice our own with out attacking..then keep on.

As for Mods... I would like to think we are mature adults for the most part and we should moderate ourselves... Perhaps a reminder via PM from Admin might be in order every now and then...

come on people...can't we just all get along!!!!
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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come on people...can't we just all get along!!!!

At the very least, this is taking energy away from the purpose of this board. Do you realize that yesterday while all the shouting was going on about race and mixing paint colors et. al. that not one new thread was added to the states forums?

We are all getting way too caught up in defending our point and trying to battle others with a different point of view. Our posts per day are 1/2 of what they were a week ago, and this is not helping.

I have no problem with good debate. I love it. It's just hard to remember when to quit and get on to other more important topics, like making this place a fun place for people to be a member of. Believe me, the last two days has not been fun, and I have at times dreaded signing on and reading some of what I have read.

Battle on, but for me, you can find me in the states forums asking and answering questions with no barbs or comebacks.... well except for the markablue comments... but that's fair.... isn't it?
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time for moderators?

Boy, the stuff I miss out on when I get busy and only peek into the actual states fora without logging on.

If things get too hot, put in a cool-down period. Lock a thread for 24 hours, let everyone take a deep breath, and then if folks are still interested once the passion is gone reopen it.

Maybe add a rule #7? "Don't post while angry." I know, that ought to fall in as a part of rule 6, but at times it helps to be reminded.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Didn't I say that would happen?? "Free for all" debates are a messageboards demise.
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Okay, on the kids viewing this site...this is what they can read:

My vagina is NOT an "equal opportunity employer". If refusing to date women makes me sexist, so be it. If refusing to date blacks makes me racist, so be it. If a guy says he won't date anyone with small tits, is he a titist?

No sooner did I finish this post I got to read this:

I doubt Martin Luther King's dream was that, "One day, no black man will ever say that he can't find a white chick that wants to bang him!"

I will watch my kids like a hawk from now on when their doing their homework research. Finding out info. on a state by visiting a state forum...sounds okay...yesterday it did.

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At the very least, this is taking energy away from the purpose of this board. Do you realize that yesterday while all the shouting was going on about race and mixing paint colors et. al. that not one new thread was added to the states forums?

We are all getting way too caught up in defending our point and trying to battle others with a different point of view. Our posts per day are 1/2 of what they were a week ago, and this is not helping.

I have no problem with good debate. I love it. It's just hard to remember when to quit and get on to other more important topics, like making this place a fun place for people to be a member of. Believe me, the last two days has not been fun, and I have at times dreaded signing on and reading some of what I have read.

Battle on, but for me, you can find me in the states forums asking and answering questions with no barbs or comebacks.... well except for the markablue comments... but that's fair.... isn't it?
I forgot to say I agree with Dufferz...the last couple of days have not been fun. I'm also headed back to the states.

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Old 02-08-2007, 07:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I forgot to say I agree with Dufferz...the last couple of days have not been fun. I'm also headed back to the states.

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I think it will fizzle out it seams to already have started
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I forgot to say I agree with Dufferz...the last couple of days have not been fun. I'm also headed back to the states.

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thanks Issy! As always, you are first class and a lady all the way.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time for moderators?

Some people here obviously take this posting 'garbage' on a public forum a bit too seriously.

Moderators ? sometimes they get drunk on their alleged cyber-power and develop a hidden agenda.

The stated rules seem clear enough. If there are children participating in topics that are inappropriate, it's their own parents problem, not the adult participants in the forum.

Look, this is a fourm, it's not a fraternity or some some sort exclusive club with monolithic thought......it's on the web for godsake ! it's not a formal and tangible organization of like-minded individuals. No one is forced to participate, answer, or start a thread. I think some people are drunk on the power of 'clickity-clicking' on any stupid forum.....it's JUST a forum !! It's not your church or synagogue gathering ! It's not a homeowner's association meeting ! It's not a neighborhood meeting ! and It's sure not the meeting of a city council/commission, or the PTO.

Get real....because I hope no one here is actually interested in using this forum to build their 'book' of 'cyber-friends' to be chums with...if so, I would suggest that they should push themselves back from the computer, turn it off, go talk with your REAL NEIGHBORS, co-workers, and TRUE friends and children........and of course get some exercise, fresh air, and lose some weight.......more importantly, turn off the computer and go build real, tangilbe and productive relationships within your synagogue, church, mosque, school, and develop a MORE PRODUCTIVE US WORKFORCE !

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Some people here obviously take this posting 'garbage' on a public forum a bit too seriously.

Moderators ? sometimes they get drunk on their alleged cyber-power and develop a hidden agenda.

The stated rules seem clear enough. If there are children participating in topics that are inappropriate, it's their own parents problem, not the adult participants in the forum.

Look, this is a fourm, it's not a fraternity or some some sort exclusive club with monolithic thought......it's on the web for godsake ! it's not a formal and tangible organization of like-minded individuals. No one is forced to participate, answer, or start a thread. I think some people are drunk on the power of 'clickity-clicking' on any stupid forum.....it's JUST a forum !! It's not your church or synagogue gathering ! It's not a homeowner's association meeting ! It's not a neighborhood meeting ! and It's sure not the meeting of a city council/commission, or the PTO.

Get real....because I hope no one here is actually interested in using this forum to build their 'book' of 'cyber-friends' to be chums with...if so, I would suggest that they should push themselves back from the computer, turn it off, go talk with your REAL NEIGHBORS, co-workers, and TRUE friends and children........and of course get some exercise, fresh air, and lose some weight.......more importantly, turn off the computer and go build real, tangilbe and productive relationships within your synagogue, church, mosque, school, and develop a MORE PRODUCTIVE US WORKFORCE !

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Old 02-09-2007, 11:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Didn't I say that would happen?? "Free for all" debates are a messageboards demise.
Not true. I belong to several boards and they have HARDCORE all out flame wars that fill pages. They all fizzle out eventially and everyone gets back to talking about other stuff. BTW, those messgeboards I was talking about are still growing and have been around for years.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Some people here obviously take this posting 'garbage' on a public forum a bit too seriously.

Moderators ? sometimes they get drunk on their alleged cyber-power and develop a hidden agenda.

The stated rules seem clear enough. If there are children participating in topics that are inappropriate, it's their own parents problem, not the adult participants in the forum.

Look, this is a fourm, it's not a fraternity or some some sort exclusive club with monolithic thought......it's on the web for godsake ! it's not a formal and tangible organization of like-minded individuals. No one is forced to participate, answer, or start a thread. I think some people are drunk on the power of 'clickity-clicking' on any stupid forum.....it's JUST a forum !! It's not your church or synagogue gathering ! It's not a homeowner's association meeting ! It's not a neighborhood meeting ! and It's sure not the meeting of a city council/commission, or the PTO.

Get real....because I hope no one here is actually interested in using this forum to build their 'book' of 'cyber-friends' to be chums with...if so, I would suggest that they should push themselves back from the computer, turn it off, go talk with your REAL NEIGHBORS, co-workers, and TRUE friends and children........and of course get some exercise, fresh air, and lose some weight.......more importantly, turn off the computer and go build real, tangilbe and productive relationships within your synagogue, church, mosque, school, and develop a MORE PRODUCTIVE US WORKFORCE !

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Some people here obviously take this posting 'garbage' on a public forum a bit too seriously.

Moderators ? sometimes they get drunk on their alleged cyber-power and develop a hidden agenda.

The stated rules seem clear enough. If there are children participating in topics that are inappropriate, it's their own parents problem, not the adult participants in the forum.

Look, this is a fourm, it's not a fraternity or some some sort exclusive club with monolithic thought......it's on the web for godsake ! it's not a formal and tangible organization of like-minded individuals. No one is forced to participate, answer, or start a thread. I think some people are drunk on the power of 'clickity-clicking' on any stupid forum.....it's JUST a forum !! It's not your church or synagogue gathering ! It's not a homeowner's association meeting ! It's not a neighborhood meeting ! and It's sure not the meeting of a city council/commission, or the PTO.

Get real....because I hope no one here is actually interested in using this forum to build their 'book' of 'cyber-friends' to be chums with...if so, I would suggest that they should push themselves back from the computer, turn it off, go talk with your REAL NEIGHBORS, co-workers, and TRUE friends and children........and of course get some exercise, fresh air, and lose some weight.......more importantly, turn off the computer and go build real, tangilbe and productive relationships within your synagogue, church, mosque, school, and develop a MORE PRODUCTIVE US WORKFORCE !

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You have made my point for me...folks who are not adult enough to be civil need moderators.

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You have made my point for me...folks who are not adult enough to be civil need moderators.

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I don't see how your point was made from that post. Moderators are only needed if people break the TOS rules.
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TOS rule number six.

6. Use common sense.

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TOS rule number six.

6. Use common sense.

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Isabel I think if you give it time things will calm down I enjoy your posts an would like to hear more if you can Ignore some of this is starting to carry on a bit all I can say is for now don’t go in some of those spots I have been looking for other stuff as well it’s getting old an pointless .so please carry on
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Thank you George,

I've turned off the subscription threads for those spots that are getting ugly. I too am looking for other stuff:) I'm not going any where else...until I see how this site pans out. I think it is having growing pains right now. See you in the states.

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Old 02-09-2007, 02:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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PDX, I think you just disagree with me for sport. You're cute.

... and I can show YOU boards, that have also been around for years - that started as no-moderation boards, which then developed middle-of-the-road moderation when things got too out of hand and posting slowed down because of all the drama.

... and then I can show YOU boards, that have been established as no-moderation, all out flame boards - that have been around for years, and you go there KNOWING that's what you are there for, so it works...

However, I don't think this is that sort of board.
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Everyone is wrong and I'm right! If you don't agree with me it's because you've been brainwashed by the media/schools/Democrats/Republics/insert propaganda machine here, and are incapable of forming independent thought. Random insult to your intelligence & personal traits. Why is everyone here so hostile?! It's just a web forum, don't take it so seriously. We need moderators because no one is taking this forum seriously! Random insult. Mild swearing. Take random members' statements completely out of context. Post clips of things I think my children shouldn't be seeing that are on this site. Make joke that's taken as an insult and personal attack. Take other peoples jokes as personal attack. Why doesn't everyone get a life!!! Everyone is wasting their lives! Your only chance at leading a normal life is to DO WHAT I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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Everyone is wrong and I'm right! If you don't agree with me it's because you've been brainwashed by the media/schools/Democrats/Republics/insert propaganda machine here, and are incapable of forming independent thought. Random insult to your intelligence & personal traits. Why is everyone here so hostile?! It's just a web forum, don't take it so seriously. We need moderators because no one is taking this forum seriously! Random insult. Mild swearing. Take random members' statements completely out of context. Post clips of things I think my children shouldn't be seeing that are on this site. Make joke that's taken as an insult and personal attack. Take other peoples jokes as personal attack. Why doesn't everyone get a life!!! Everyone is wasting their lives! Your only chance at leading a normal life is to DO WHAT I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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I’d like to know who’s taking my jokes . now that just flames my ,,,,
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Anyone who feels an additional rule would be helpful to the forum could propose it by posting a poll, so we could take a vote.

A similar vote could be used if a truly disruptive individual requires banning.
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Sounds like a really good idea...What do you think admin.?

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I enjoy a good debate. But...when i get attacked and called names it ends the debate. This forum was wonderful and had a beautiful air about it. Then someone crashes the party and puts a stench in the air. Need some deodorizer to tame it down. No i don't feel the need for mods. I think admin should be capable of seeing who is just plain and out trouble and who isn't. There's a big diff in debating an issue and picking on a persons views. When someone writes on thier bio for everyone to see that they enjoy making trouble on message boards, well i think that's a red flag.
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I enjoy a good debate. But...when i get attacked and called names it ends the debate. This forum was wonderful and had a beautiful air about it. Then someone crashes the party and puts a stench in the air. Need some deodorizer to tame it down. No i don't feel the need for mods. I think admin should be capable of seeing who is just plain and out trouble and who isn't. There's a big diff in debating an issue and picking on a persons views. When someone writes on thier bio for everyone to see that they enjoy making trouble on message boards, well i think that's a red flag.
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