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Old 03-03-2007, 02:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was moving to Portland OR, heck I may still. But I was called 3 days ago from a job I applied for a while back. They asked if I was still interrested. I said yes, they set up to do a phone interview. I applied to work security in a casino on the gulf coast.. Gulfport MS to be exact. They did a phone interview with me today, said they are sending a rep out to my home city to do a follow up face to face interview. I assume this is a very good sign. If I get the job, I think I will take it, over going back to school in Portland. I am just concerned witht eh condition of the area after Katrina. I would be honored to move there though and help rebuild a city devistated by Katrina. Be apart of the positive change taking place there. It maybe the new start I need in my life, and its something I know. I am just unsure where my heart and head want to lead me..
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I was moving to Portland OR, heck I may still. But I was called 3 days ago from a job I applied for a while back. They asked if I was still interrested. I said yes, they set up to do a phone interview. I applied to work security in a casino on the gulf coast.. Gulfport MS to be exact. They did a phone interview with me today, said they are sending a rep out to my home city to do a follow up face to face interview. I assume this is a very good sign. If I get the job, I think I will take it, over going back to school in Portland. I am just concerned witht eh condition of the area after Katrina. I would be honored to move there though and help rebuild a city devistated by Katrina. Be apart of the positive change taking place there. It maybe the new start I need in my life, and its something I know. I am just unsure where my heart and head want to lead me..
I bet someone like Kimbercuddles would have a good overview of the area. The thought that I had was that with the devastation and the number of people moving out of the area, you would think that land could be purchased at a depressed value now. That would be good if you stayed long term.

Good luck with the job interview. Talk about pressure. I see the TV shows about casino security and all they do. Wow. Lots to learn to say the least!

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I was moving to Portland OR, heck I may still. But I was called 3 days ago from a job I applied for a while back. They asked if I was still interrested. I said yes, they set up to do a phone interview. I applied to work security in a casino on the gulf coast.. Gulfport MS to be exact. They did a phone interview with me today, said they are sending a rep out to my home city to do a follow up face to face interview. I assume this is a very good sign. If I get the job, I think I will take it, over going back to school in Portland. I am just concerned witht eh condition of the area after Katrina. I would be honored to move there though and help rebuild a city devistated by Katrina. Be apart of the positive change taking place there. It maybe the new start I need in my life, and its something I know. I am just unsure where my heart and head want to lead me..
Panterro, I did a little research on Biloxi/Gulfport area and it looks as though Mississippi is recovering at a much more rapid pace than Louisiana. One of the things I would definitely check out is the housing available. If you would be renting, there were a few 1-bdrm apartments around $550-700. I don't know your situation, so you might prefer a 2-bdrm or even a house. Sperlings Best Places can give you quite a bit of info regarding cost of living, education, etc.

I don't know how concerned you would be about this, but the Gulfport area has a very high crime rate. On a scale of 1 to 10, I believe the violent crimes were a 7 (nat'l avg was 3) and the non-violent crimes were an 8. (if I remember correctly)

From your posts, it sounds as though you've lived around the gulf coast previously, and in that case, you're probably aware of the fact that it's extremely humid. If you need information, please let me know...before we moved to Baton Rouge, all I did was research on the area!
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Thanks Kimber. I am aware of the humidty yes, as for Sperlings, I read some place that those figures are pre Katrina, something like 2003-2004 FBI data. As well as the data used to determine race, cost of living etc.

I have a couple resources I used to contact locals there about rentals and such. I have found plenty of rental properties, as well as jobs in the area.

http://www.careerbuilders.com is a great place to locate work in the area.

http://www.apartments.com not only list Apartments but homes as well.

When I spoke with renters, I also asked about the condition and mood of the area, and most that have I spoken with said they see much progress in the area, and a renewed vigor. There is a long way to go, but they are going there fast. I would love to be part of that.

Kimber also look at the crime for Long Beach and for Biloxi, as well as Ocean Springs, each area is smacked right up to the next and the crime adjust from a 2-7 depending what area you live in. Now some of the crime stats I am sure are due to Casinos... Long Beach has no casinos, and a much lower crime rate, Gulfport and Biloxi do have casinos and there for a higher crime rate.. Ocean springs has no Casinos and the crime rate there was lower, more close to the national avg. Also going by the stats on Sperlings El Paso TX has a high crime rate double the national avg at 6,6... but everyone would tell you crime is not bad here at all. So I am not sure I want to follow what Sperlings has to say, the data seems faulty and out dated. But thank you for doing the research.

Baton Rouge huh.. thats very cool, I have a good buddy who lives there. He lives near the blackham coliseum.. oh wait thats Lafayette. Close to where you are.. Now there is a city with a girl guy ratio outta wack.. lol.

Duff, I ran the hotel security for the Fort Bliss Inn, on fort bliss. It has something like 20 locations scattered across Fort Bliss and Biggs AAF. With over 1000-2000 rooms, and as many guest there each day. Since there was no prior security there I had to write the SOP on how to protect the inn and its guest. I was hired though the Fort Bliss DAP.. and put in charge of the inn. My job was recently cut due to funding and the fact the inn is going private sector. So I have some experiance... in the field. =)
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Panterro, I wish the best for you on the interview and from what you've stated, I would guess you have a very good chance of getting the job.

I understand what you're saying as far as the crime stats...San Antonio had a higher than normal crime rate, but most of it occurred in certain areas of town. There was little need for people to worry in most of the areas.

I personally would choose the Mississippi coast before Louisiana for a few reasons, but especially because it is closer to the nicer beaches. Mississippi also seems to have less problems politically regarding the re-building and such. It's also nice to know that you have a few connections...when we moved, we didn't have the benefit of knowing anyone...makes it a little more difficult. Please keep us posted on the outcome, if you would be so kind.
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Pan, I think everybody here would want whatever decision you make to be the right one. I personally hate to see you miss out on the NW - but perhaps at a later date if you don't get up here this time.
One of the things I noticed about folks from MS that I've met in other places is how real they are, how down-home, how polite they are. Almost every one of them have made it back down there - always wanted to - never would've left it in the first place, they say, except for work and the pure sake of travel.
Knowing you'll keep us informed - best wishes anyway.
Glad to see you back. Hope your stay is hassle-free.
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If I get the job, I think I will take it, over going back to school in Portland.
You may be able to both take the new job, and further your education. There are accredited online universities, such as www.capella.edu.

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You may be able to both take the new job, and further your education. There are accredited online universities, such as www.capella.edu.

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how legit is this online school? I watched a program last year about people who spent tons of $$ online for schools that were not legit.
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Wouldn't it be extremely easy to "cheat" with an online school program? If I were an employer, I'd probably tend to hire someone with a degree from a school in which he/she actually attended, rather than an online school. Except maybe someone from UCLA... Just kidding. I know there are plenty of intelligent people who have degrees from that university.
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how legit is this online school? I watched a program last year about people who spent tons of $$ online for schools that were not legit.
That is a legitimate concern .

Capella University is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission and a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. This is the same accreditation as the University of Illinois (Urbana), generally recognized as one of the finest, in the U.S.

http://www.capella.edu/about_capella/accreditation.aspx

Accreditation can be withdrawn, if a school fails to maintain the quality standards that got it accredited.

I have a special warmth, for Capella, because my uncle, Dr. Harold Abel, was a founder, and their School of Psychology is named after him.

However, there are several accredited, online universities. Before choosing any university, one should check its credentials, accreditation, and the success rate of its graduates, carefully.

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Wouldn't it be extremely easy to "cheat" with an online school program? If I were an employer, I'd probably tend to hire someone with a degree from a school in which he/she actually attended, rather than an online school.
That is a real concern.

There are certain subjects, which require hands-on experience (such as chemistry), which don't lend themselves to online learning.

However, subjects that require reading and writing, but not lab work, should be amenable to online learning. These include many of the humanities, business, and computer degrees.

Just as in a physical classroom, class participation is required. The class e-mails the professor...it's a forum environment, similar to Talk States. They also e-mail tests and papers.

It is possible to cheat. For example, you can get your spouse to write your papers for you. However, it's also possible to do that, in physical classes (my sister wrote, or at least co-wrote, many of her husband's college research papers). You could get your spouse to take tests for you, online, which you can't do, in a physical class.

So, is an online degree a second-class degree? Do employers discriminate against it? I don't know.

I do think that a degree, from an accredited college, is better than no degree, because many jobs are only open to degreed applicants. If you are working in a town that doesn't have an accredited college, an online, accredited degree opens opportunities.

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I agree totally, Wendy, that any degree is better than no degree...no doubt. My sister recently 'graduated' from an online school in Criminal Justice. I am very proud of her and am glad she had the opportunity to 'go to school' that way. One benefit of an online school is that it's probably much easier for people who are employed full-time during the week, also. It's just something I'm not used to; I'm an '80's kid and trying to adjust to the new and advanced technology. We weren't allowed to have calculators in math class.
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I'm an '80's kid and trying to adjust to the new and advanced technology. We weren't allowed to have calculators in math class.
I'm a '50s kid. Not only weren't we allowed to have calculators in math class; calculators hadn't been invented yet (although pyramids had ).

In fact, I was the first, in my college class, to have a calculator. It belonged to my father's business. It could add, subtract, multiply, and divide; it was the size of a Blackberry; it cost $300 in 1972 dollars. That was when a slice of pizza cost 15 cents.

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How are these children learning when they have gadgets to do everything for them? Things have changed from the '80's considerably...looks like even moreso since the '50's! The '50's, when Elvis was the king of suggestive innuendos!
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<when Elvis was the king of suggestive innuendos! >

LOL!!

I don't recall Elvis. My parents were into classical music, and they didn't play Elvis.

The first popular music that I was ever aware of was <brace yourself> the first visit of the Beatles, to the U.S., when I was in fifth grade! The kids in school were wild about them. When I heard "I Love You, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah," my reaction was, "Oh, this is silly music." It wasn't until I was in Junior High, when the Beatles came out with "Eleanor Rigby," that I thought that they were great. I still think that "Eleanor Rigby" is one of the greatest songs, of all time.

I also remember the first time that I heard acid rock. It was "Strange Brew," by The Cream. My reaction was, "Wow! What was THAT???" It was totally different, but I liked it.

My Dad was an electrical engineer. He designed the psychedelic lighting, for the Cheetah Club, which was a famous discotheque, in NYC. (Although he was very square, he got a kick out of designing the lighting effects.) He took me to see Jimi Hendrix play, when I was 13. (I was also very square.) I wore my most fashionable mini-skirt suit, trying to look more mature.

Although it was neat, hearing famous rockers, in concert, I didn't go to many. Growing up, listening to classical music, gave me sensitive hearing. I literally couldn't stand the pain, of rock concerts. So, I grew up going to Lincoln Center, to the ballet, opera, and classical concerts.

I was a very square kid. I worked, the summer that my brother went to Woodstock.

I'm still very square :-).

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P.S. Can you believe it? Someone actually recorded the Jimi Hendrix concert, at the Cheetah Club! That gives me the exact date, that Dad took me there: it was 2/14/66, which was over <gasp!> 40 years ago! Catch me, while I faint!

http://www.nii.net/~obie/jimi_hendrix_live.htm

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Absolutely nothing wrong with being square, Wendy! I was raised on music...everything from Mac Davis to Boston to Elvis and all the way back to folk music and traditionals. We watched very little television, except for things like Little House on the Prairie. I've learned to like some classical music in my aging years. I remember hearing about the Ed Sullivan show and how it was a big controversial subject when Elvis was supposed to appear and they only showed him from the waist up because of his "gyrations".
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I agree totally, Wendy, that any degree is better than no degree...no doubt. My sister recently 'graduated' from an online school in Criminal Justice. I am very proud of her and am glad she had the opportunity to 'go to school' that way. One benefit of an online school is that it's probably much easier for people who are employed full-time during the week, also.
Did your sister get a job, in her field? Or, did the fact that she got an online degree (instead of a degree from a physical classroom) cause prejudice against her application?

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Did your sister get a job, in her field? Or, did the fact that she got an online degree (instead of a degree from a physical classroom) cause prejudice against her application?

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She just graduated in December and is still working at her job at a home with special needs children, some with extreme physical handicaps. It's a great learning experience for her right now. She lives in a very small community...up by Detroit Lakes, MN, so she will probably end up moving somewhere near Fargo, ND, or the Minneapolis area when she wants to go the route of the Criminal Justice field. But at least she has the degree for when that time comes.
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University of Phoenix is the largest non-traditional, for-profit "university" in the U.S., claiming over 280,000 students. It has been the center of growing controversy, centered on low academic standards and low graduation rates (4% online, 16% overall get a degree within six years), and various legal difficulties.

Capella University has its own controversies.
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Capella ? whoa that's funny...

Founded by a few fellow shekelcounters, raking off the top to tunes of millions of dollars....but what else is new....just chasing the dollar..

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Back on Topic here.. The wife and I are going to wait till we have the second interview to decide. Thanks for the feedback.
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Back on Topic here.. The wife and I are going to wait till we have the second interview to decide. Thanks for the feedback.
I'm sure you will keep us updated, very exciting.

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University of Phoenix is the largest non-traditional, for-profit "university" in the U.S., claiming over 280,000 students. It has been the center of growing controversy, centered on low academic standards and low graduation rates (4% online, 16% overall get a degree within six years), and various legal difficulties.

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No...last time I saw him posting was just before a post was made by another member...who gave lots of personal info. about Rod...which they found on line.

I think that turned him sour on this site. Don't blame him. I do miss him and his witty way

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