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[kimbercuddles]

Originally Posted by Curious George

So you’re a two minute Tommy fan, you must’a been pretty young to hang with that bunch.

Depends on what your view of 'young' is, Curious. The Bryan Adams song, 'Summer of '69' is my song...born in July. Cramer even opened some great restaurants in San Antonio...small world. I know people will hate me for this, but I'm a Newt Gingrich fan. Odie, don't even start...I realize I will be condemned, but he's brilliant. I doubt Newt will be able to knock Giuliana off the front-running post, but it never hurts to hope.

[Curious George]

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

Depends on what your view of 'young' is, Curious. The Bryan Adams song, 'Summer of '69' is my song...born in July. Cramer even opened some great restaurants in San Antonio...small world. I know people will hate me for this, but I'm a Newt Gingrich fan. Odie, don't even start...I realize I will be condemned, but he's brilliant. I doubt Newt will be able to knock Giuliana off the front-running post, but it never hurts to hope.

Young now days would be anything under 80 an still able to function well , health an smarts. I think ol Tommy boy was from Texas . I was just ribben ya about Arnold ,I’m
Watchin newt an Giuliani haven’t decided yet need to hear some more in the next year. I don’t want one who will just cut an run from Iraq we have worked to hard an sacrificed to much to just up an leave . as bad as it is, without us the usa in that region there would be less stability terror groups an hostile governments would go un checked .we are the only counter that can somewhat control it ,

[kimbercuddles]

Originally Posted by Curious George

Young now days would be anything under 80 an still able to function well , health an smarts. I think ol Tommy boy was from Texas . I was just ribben ya about Arnold ,I’m
Watchin newt an Giuliani haven’t decided yet need to hear some more in the next year. I don’t want one who will just cut an run from Iraq we have worked to hard an sacrificed to much to just up an leave . as bad as it is, without us the usa in that region there would be less stability terror groups an hostile governments would go un checked .we are the only counter that can somewhat control it ,

Agreed...sounds as though both Giuliani and Newt would definitely keep the U.S. in Iraq until there is enough stability in that region. The 'cut and runs' would be Obama for sure and I think Billary is thinking the same way, unfortunately.

[Wyody]

Gingrich?? Gingrich?? Okay, somebody was begging some slack about Gingrich so, just to run over the fool nicely, two-words = Howdy Doody. Two more words = Chuckee Cheese. A few more gentle words - anal-retentive hippocrite from the PFH team (Politicians from Hell).
And of course, to round-out my good intentions ... HaHaHaHaHaHadrippingHaHaHa!
Okay, that done, this Iraq thing has driven me nuts since the price of bacon trippled and we hadn't even gone to war yet! Somebody do me a favor - I'm a peace-freak type so, don't want to do it myself - but would somebody just push the button and nuke 'em all? It takes so long each day to keep up with the garbagacious news that by the time I get to Snuffy Smith, I'm too tired to read it!
I still think Gorbachev was the best president we ever had! Would've sent Ronny over there in a heartbeat on a trade-deal. Gorby was doing things. Ronny was only looking for photo-ops.
Peace - all you RR lovers.

[kimbercuddles]

Originally Posted by Wyody

Gingrich?? Gingrich?? Okay, somebody was begging some slack about Gingrich so, just to run over the fool nicely, two-words = Howdy Doody. Two more words = Chuckee Cheese. A few more gentle words - anal-retentive hippocrite from the PFH team (Politicians from Hell).
And of course, to round-out my good intentions ... HaHaHaHaHaHadrippingHaHaHa!
Okay, that done, this Iraq thing has driven me nuts since the price of bacon trippled and we hadn't even gone to war yet! Somebody do me a favor - I'm a peace-freak type so, don't want to do it myself - but would somebody just push the button and nuke 'em all? It takes so long each day to keep up with the garbagacious news that by the time I get to Snuffy Smith, I'm too tired to read it!
I still think Gorbachev was the best president we ever had! Would've sent Ronny over there in a heartbeat on a trade-deal. Gorby was doing things. Ronny was only looking for photo-ops.
Peace - all you RR lovers.

I asked for it, didn't I? I don't like war any more than you do, Odie, believe me. Here is an honest question: what do you think would happen if we let everyone know that we would be pulling our troops out at the end of this year? I personally don't know for sure, but I don't think I want to take the chance of letting them know exactly when we will let them have their safe-haven in Iraq. What would President Odie do?

[Wyody]

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

I asked for it, didn't I? I don't like war any more than you do, Odie, believe me. Here is an honest question: what do you think would happen if we let everyone know that we would be pulling our troops out at the end of this year? I personally don't know for sure, but I don't think I want to take the chance of letting them know exactly when we will let them have their safe-haven in Iraq. What would President Odie do?

If there really was a President O.D., it would already be an idealistic world and the troop pull-out would be no problem as we wouldn't be at war ... we'd be at Ice-Cream!
Such a Catch-22 we have right now. Case-in-point: The Dems sending a message by not passing funding. Bush vocalizing about how we need that money to keep the war going. (?) The Dems and whoever else wanting to set definitive withdrawal plans publicly. Bush saying "that should be up to the Generals on the ground".
Bush doesn't get it. We're sick of funding his stupid little war. Sick of our kids being killed ... for nothing! Iraq did not attack. Bad call from the get-go. Hidden agendas.
Of course I know ... WE know ... that the Dems can't withhold that money and we KNOW the generals can't fight & comply at the same time. Not our fault. Bush's fault. Cheney's fault. People like Gingrich's fault. In short, whoever misled us about WMD and Iraq's role in 9/11 is at fault. Even I was all for it based on what we were being told - of course, I go to car races, old-folks' homes and the occasional NA meeting (with a friend) and I only go to see the wrecks!! War is an attractive game to my inner child.
But back to the point ... the "what if"? If O.D. was president, we'd bring every American troop home tonight. We'd cover Iraq in sheets of SaranWrap lined with vaseline and have our troops walk in, pluck whoever we want out of the flytrap we laid, bring them over here, put them in a cell near Noriega - then we'd plant cabbage in Iraq and life would go on while we figured out just when to nuke Iran.
Dialogue before bombs. Wanna talk? Me neither.

[kimbercuddles]

Originally Posted by Wyody

If there really was a President O.D., it would already be an idealistic world and the troop pull-out would be no problem as we wouldn't be at war ... we'd be at Ice-Cream!
Such a Catch-22 we have right now. Case-in-point: The Dems sending a message by not passing funding. Bush vocalizing about how we need that money to keep the war going. (?) The Dems and whoever else wanting to set definitive withdrawal plans publicly. Bush saying "that should be up to the Generals on the ground".
Bush doesn't get it. We're sick of funding his stupid little war. Sick of our kids being killed ... for nothing! Iraq did not attack. Bad call from the get-go. Hidden agendas.
Of course I know ... WE know ... that the Dems can't withhold that money and we KNOW the generals can't fight & comply at the same time. Not our fault. Bush's fault. Cheney's fault. People like Gingrich's fault. In short, whoever misled us about WMD and Iraq's role in 9/11 is at fault. Even I was all for it based on what we were being told - of course, I go to car races, old-folks' homes and the occasional NA meeting (with a friend) and I only go to see the wrecks!! War is an attractive game to my inner child.
But back to the point ... the "what if"? If O.D. was president, we'd bring every American troop home tonight. We'd cover Iraq in sheets of SaranWrap lined with vaseline and have our troops walk in, pluck whoever we want out of the flytrap we laid, bring them over here, put them in a cell near Noriega - then we'd plant cabbage in Iraq and life would go on while we figured out just when to nuke Iran.
Dialogue before bombs. Wanna talk? Me neither.

Odie, Odie, Odie...sometimes I just want to tie your ears in a knot.

The only thing I really disagree with you about is the fact that you seem to believe that the administration was intentionally dishonest with us because of a hidden agenda. If that's not what you think, I apologize for assuming.

As far as the plan for Iraq as President Odie...I think it's brilliant! I would love to be able to warn the 'harmless and innocent' Iraqi people and be done with the terrorists who want everyone besides Muslims dead. If only it were that easy...I'd buy stock in vaseline and saranwrap, also.

[Wyody]

[quote=kimbercuddles;14884]The only thing I really disagree with you about is the fact that you seem to believe that the administration was intentionally dishonest with us because of a hidden agenda. If that's not what you think, I apologize for assuming...

... As far as the plan for Iraq as President Odie...I think it's brilliant! QUOTE]

Hmmmm. Was this admimbination intentionally misleading every one? Hmmmmm ....
One should always bear in mind that there is a bigger picture regarding the United States and the World that most of us never view - never even dawns on some of us.
The idea that the United States would be one thing to us, the Americans, the Yanks, here at home and at the same time be something totally different to other countries full of people around the globe ... well, that wouldn't really be a novel idea ... but it is one that needs to be occasionally broached for the public's continuing education.
See, upstairs - where we don't go, they run this thing like a business and always have ... always. They do their own wheeling-and-dealing and sometimes manipulate things as they see fit - and it's done for the overall and over-riding interest of America, the business. A business with an army.
Our m.o. in this worldwide arena is to be the bully - to reach out and take what won't be shared peacefully by hook or by crook ..... but that's off-topic and I digress.
Now, back to the original question. Do I think Alfalfa and Cheney knew that all the "information" was baloney? Well, I'm not real sure if Cheney knew that stuff yet ... but I think Alfalfa did. Bigger Picture + we can't see it = hidden agenda.

[kimbercuddles]

[quote=Wyody;14898]

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

The only thing I really disagree with you about is the fact that you seem to believe that the administration was intentionally dishonest with us because of a hidden agenda. If that's not what you think, I apologize for assuming...

... As far as the plan for Iraq as President Odie...I think it's brilliant! QUOTE]

Hmmmm. Was this admimbination intentionally misleading every one? Hmmmmm ....
One should always bear in mind that there is a bigger picture regarding the United States and the World that most of us never view - never even dawns on some of us.
The idea that the United States would be one thing to us, the Americans, the Yanks, here at home and at the same time be something totally different to other countries full of people around the globe ... well, that wouldn't really be a novel idea ... but it is one that needs to be occasionally broached for the public's continuing education.
See, upstairs - where we don't go, they run this thing like a business and always have ... always. They do their own wheeling-and-dealing and sometimes manipulate things as they see fit - and it's done for the overall and over-riding interest of America, the business. A business with an army.
Our m.o. in this worldwide arena is to be the bully - to reach out and take what won't be shared peacefully but hook or by crook ..... but that's off-topic and I digress.
Now, back to the original question. Do I think Alfalfa and Cheney knew that all the "information" was baloney? Well, I'm not real sure if Cheney knew that stuff yet ... but I think Alfalfa did. Bigger Picture + we can't see it = hidden agenda.

I see a big picture and a bigger picture...but they are both fuzzy to me because I don't have the executive privilege...only those people know EXACTLY what is going on and wouldn't we all love to be privy to that info!!

My opinion is that if we were privy to that information, we might understand our President a little more...there have been a lot of good things that have come about since his time in office and he hasn't been dealt the best of cards. Low interest rates, low unemployment, stable (bull) stock market, tax cuts, stable economy, dead Hussein..somewhere along the way, I wish people would just give him a little bit of credit for what he's accomplished.

I know we don't see eye-to-eye, Odie, and maybe I sound like an optimist with rose-colored glasses...9-11 was a major wake-up call to the U.S. and it really bothers me the way that people have blamed all of this on our present administration. You know I respect your opinion...but do you see where I'm coming from? PDX was exactly right...we all want the same end result. The strategies for getting there are what people disagree about.

[Wyody]

Just 2-centing here Cuddles;
Bush was handed the best package any president's been handed in probably a century.
However, for having been a "Corn-State" Country for so many years until '60, we aren't doing all that bad. Three Oilmen, one actor, one Navy boy, one real-estate lawyer/investor and a peanut-farmer.
One did good. One claimed to. The rest just ended up scratching whatever they could reach.

[kimbercuddles]

Originally Posted by Wyody

Just 2-centing here Cuddles;
Bush was handed the best package any president's been handed in probably a century.
However, for having been a "Corn-State" Country for so many years until '60, we aren't doing all that bad. Three Oilmen, one actor, one Navy boy, one real-estate lawyer/investor and a peanut-farmer.
One did good. One claimed to. The rest just ended up scratching whatever they could reach.

Good summation, Odie...I agree, Bush had a great start...how any other president would have dealt with 9-11 and Katrina/Rita; obviously, we will never know. Could have been better, could have been worse...no use worrying about that, now.

[NHYRNUT]

Originally Posted by Curious George

Young now days would be anything under 80 an still able to function well , health an smarts. I think ol Tommy boy was from Texas . I was just ribben ya about Arnold ,I’m
Watchin newt an Giuliani haven’t decided yet need to hear some more in the next year. I don’t want one who will just cut an run from Iraq we have worked to hard an sacrificed to much to just up an leave . as bad as it is, without us the usa in that region there would be less stability terror groups an hostile governments would go un checked .we are the only counter that can somewhat control it ,

1 of My Great Uncles is 62, just had another kid. With his 23 year old wife. So I guess age don't matter When you have money. LOL

[Wyody]

Originally Posted by kimbercuddles

Good summation, Odie...I agree, Bush had a great start...how any other president would have dealt with 9-11 and Katrina/Rita; obviously, we will never know. Could have been better, could have been worse...no use worrying about that, now.

I'm realizing that I rarely use 9/11 in my moments spent on hi-liting Alfalfa's presidency.
It boggles my CPU wondering what another man who may have won that presidency ... but never served ... and had been President on that day - and in the years since - what he would have done and how might things be different.? So, being a hideously intelligent but mentally lazy yet recreational individual, I don't think about it.
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[Curious George]

Originally Posted by NHYRNUT

1 of My Great Uncles is 62, just had another kid. With his 23 year old wife. So I guess age don't matter When you have money. LOL

I don’t know if I’d want a gal that much younger she would be younger then the first set of kids an he’ll be 80 something when the kid gradguates.

[NHYRNUT]

Originally Posted by Curious George

I don’t know if I’d want a gal that much younger she would be younger then the first set of kids an he’ll be 80 something when the kid gradguates.

Your right she is younger than his youngest. By 15 years. I'd say she is after money but there isn't alot there.

[catfish]

Obama and illegals share same message !

Well as time goes by we see the skeletons coming out of the liberal
candidates more and more everyday.

Didn't know this because of course no news media is going to cover it and
hurt their golden boy.

YES WE CAN

Obama's little stolen quip was the EXACT same quip the ILLEGALS used during
their illegal marches in OUR STREETS of American last year.

Then to have a mass murdered picture posted on his headquarters and all the
other things he has hidden behind his doors why on earth would anyone vote
for this guy.

He and his wife are anti American and will change our culture into a new
America that looks like something other then America.

Those who are following him had better look deep into this guy, I know he
makes allot of people feel good but he will destroy America from the ground
up.