How far inland to stay away from hurricanes?

[kdm31091]

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

Well everyone can relax and drive an SUV in peace, the scientific data is in...they all agree that global warming is not caused by anything that humans do. It is a natural occurance and icebergs and polar caps and cracks have always occurred, long before humans had cars or factories. Global warming and sea levels are a natural occurance. So the hollywood ppl and Al Gore can stop all thier ****...besides a nuclear war, the earth will go on for another billion yrs.

THANK YOU!

I keep trying to say this to people, but nobody seems to listen. The earth goes through cycles. A long while ago when they thought we had global cooling we were doing the same driving and factory-waste-dumping, and since it was the 70's, maybe even WORSE. I'm sick of hearing we're the cause. And even if we are, nothing seems to be changing.

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

THANK YOU!

I keep trying to say this to people, but nobody seems to listen. The earth goes through cycles. A long while ago when they thought we had global cooling we were doing the same driving and factory-waste-dumping, and since it was the 70's, maybe even WORSE. I'm sick of hearing we're the cause. And even if we are, nothing seems to be changing.

Yes, My husband and i have had the discussion for many yrs...that there has been tons of changes for tons of yrs...there's nothing new.

[kdm31091]

If there were rep here, you'd get so much right now. :)

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

If there were rep here, you'd get so much right now. :)

LOL...thanx much.

[RodFarlee]

I clipped the part that didn't make sense, leaving:

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

...the scientific data is in...

"In the judgment of most climate scientists, Earth’s warming in recent decades has been caused primarily by human activities that have increased the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (see Figure 1). Greenhouse gases have increased significantly since the Industrial Revolution, mostly from the burning of fossil fuels for energy, industrial processes, and transportation. Greenhouse gases are at their highest levels in at least 400,000 years and continue to rise."
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Because carbon dioxide and some other greenhouse gases can remain in the atmosphere for many decades, centuries, or longer, the climate change impacts from concentrations today will likely continue well beyond the 21st century and could potentially accelerate. Failure to implement significant reductions in net greenhouse gas emissions will make the job much harder in the future—both in terms of stabilizing their atmospheric abundances and in terms of experiencing more significant impacts."
- Highlights from the National Academy of Sciences' Report on Climate Change

The National Academy of Sciences, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, etc., etc. do indeed agree, the data are in and keep rolling in, making the conclusion inescapable.

[kdm31091]

But those gasses were there when we had "global cooling".

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by RodFarlee

I clipped the part that didn't make sense, leaving:


"In the judgment of most climate scientists, Earth’s warming in recent decades has been caused primarily by human activities that have increased the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (see Figure 1). Greenhouse gases have increased significantly since the Industrial Revolution, mostly from the burning of fossil fuels for energy, industrial processes, and transportation. Greenhouse gases are at their highest levels in at least 400,000 years and continue to rise."
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Because carbon dioxide and some other greenhouse gases can remain in the atmosphere for many decades, centuries, or longer, the climate change impacts from concentrations today will likely continue well beyond the 21st century and could potentially accelerate. Failure to implement significant reductions in net greenhouse gas emissions will make the job much harder in the future—both in terms of stabilizing their atmospheric abundances and in terms of experiencing more significant impacts."
- Highlights from the National Academy of Sciences' Report on Climate Change

The National Academy of Sciences, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, etc., etc. do indeed agree, the data are in and keep rolling in, making the conclusion inescapable.

Are you for real? And another one like the Mud that has the need to be nasty...There is no proof that the greenhouse effect or anything else is caused by humans....NONE! Exactly what part of my post didn't make sense to you? LOL...not all of us need to post news clippings all the time....but i take it you do so here's one for ya...
http://xtronics.com/reference/globalwarming.htm

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

But those gasses were there when we had "global cooling".

As young as you are you have grasped the concept and the truth about this global warming bull dinkys...They have proven that there is no proof that humans are causing anything...

[Sekretgardengal]

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

The ppl that live in my town and i researched it, that my area hasn't been hit by anything with winds more then 75 mph...I should have specified, the treasure coast. The last time this area had been was in the 40s but it wasn't even a cat1....My sister lived in Sarasota when Charley hit but didn't get any damage.

You just never know which way a hurricane is going to turn. It happened here with Charley. If he would have stayed out in the water a bit more, he may have hit Sarasota. He was supposed to hit Tampa. It went from a Cat. 1 to a strong Cat. 4 in a matter of a few hours.

[Sekretgardengal]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

THANK YOU!

I keep trying to say this to people, but nobody seems to listen. The earth goes through cycles. A long while ago when they thought we had global cooling we were doing the same driving and factory-waste-dumping, and since it was the 70's, maybe even WORSE. I'm sick of hearing we're the cause. And even if we are, nothing seems to be changing.

You hit the nail on the head, Rainbow. Nothing seems to be changing.

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by Sekretgardengal

You hit the nail on the head, Rainbow. Nothing seems to be changing.

Before the 40s there were huge hurricanes and polar cap meltings and greenhouse effects and so forth...they say that **** changes every 1500 yrs, which only makes sense..of course. Like i said other then a nuclear war (God Forbid) or the planets lining up or a massive meteor, the earth will last another billion yrs.

[RodFarlee]

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

Are you for real? And another one like the Mud that has the need to be nasty...There is no proof that the greenhouse effect or anything else is caused by humans....NONE! Exactly what part of my post didn't make sense to you? LOL...not all of us need to post news clippings all the time....but i take it you do so here's one for ya...
http://xtronics.com/reference/globalwarming.htm

Ah, it's time for a visit with White House Situational Science Advisor Dr. Nathan Null.

As he asks, "Stewie gets it now, folks! Do you?"

[kdm31091]

I also find the "hurricanes will increase w/ global warming" thing completely ridiculous. And people believe it because we had a few above average seasons. My response: the above average season had to occur some year! If it had happened in 1870, we would have forgotten it by now. The statistic has to come from SOMEWHERE and it just so happens that it happened in 2005.

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

I also find the "hurricanes will increase w/ global warming" thing completely ridiculous. And people believe it because we had a few above average seasons. My response: the above average season had to occur some year! If it had happened in 1870, we would have forgotten it by now. The statistic has to come from SOMEWHERE and it just so happens that it happened in 2005.

They blame alot on El Nino...LOL..

[RodFarlee]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

I also find the "hurricanes will increase w/ global warming" thing completely ridiculous. And people believe it because we had a few above average seasons. My response: the above average season had to occur some year! If it had happened in 1870, we would have forgotten it by now. The statistic has to come from SOMEWHERE and it just so happens that it happened in 2005.

That is not the line of reasoning. Climatologists agree with you that a climate change signal is not available in hurricane frequency data, which is dominated by shorter-term cyclic changes. And it is beginning to appear that warming will not increase the frequency of hurricanes, but will increase their intensity and duration. See the NOAA for a discussion.

[CandyApple]

What are the different categories of hurricanes? Is cat 5 the highest? What is the wind speed/etc. of each category?

Let's say I built a house on the coast about a 1.5 miles inland and KNEW that the highest category hurricane would hit it eventually. What would I have to do to make it hurricane proof? Would building it on stilts help? Are the stilts just to keep the house from getting flooded? I've seen houses on stilts at the beach in North Carolina.

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by CandyApple

What are the different categories of hurricanes? Is cat 5 the highest? What is the wind speed/etc. of each category?

Let's say I built a house on the coast about a 1.5 miles inland and KNEW that the highest category hurricane would hit it eventually. What would I have to do to make it hurricane proof? Would building it on stilts help? Are the stilts just to keep the house from getting flooded? I've seen houses on stilts at the beach in North Carolina.

Stilts are for flooding. What we would like is to build a house with a cement roof if we could afford it...then it is pretty tornado and hurricane safe. When you get over 150 mph winds, anything can happen and a tornado of 200 mph can take down a concrete block house....check this out..
http://www.goodkarmadomes.com/.....
http://www.marshbunny.com/mbunny/sid...ne/storms.html

[Curious George]

Originally Posted by RAINBOWWAVES

Stilts are for flooding. What we would like is to build a house with a cement roof if we could afford it...then it is pretty tornado and hurricane safe. When you get over 150 mph winds, anything can happen and a tornado of 200 mph can take down a concrete block house....check this out..
http://www.goodkarmadomes.com/.....
http://www.marshbunny.com/mbunny/sid...ne/storms.html

I don’t know if you get tornados down there but up hear. if one directly hits you there’s not much left no mater what type of building you have. I have seen pitchers of 2x4’s stuck in oak trees . if a building did withstand the tornado they sure do get messed up from all the flying junk . The concrete roof is that spray on or is it panels they install ?

[RAINBOWWAVES]

Originally Posted by Curious George

I don’t know if you get tornados down there but up hear. if one directly hits you there’s not much left no mater what type of building you have. I have seen pitchers of 2x4’s stuck in oak trees . if a building did withstand the tornado they sure do get messed up from all the flying junk . The concrete roof is that spray on or is it panels they install ?

We had a tornado here but not in my neighborhood but up a little further and it didn't take any houses down but took my sons friends roof off. Not all tornados have winds of 200 mph..and like i said, at that speed even cement is coming down. With all 3 hurricanes we had, Francis, jeanne and Wilma, we were hit directly..they came off the ocean which we are just 10 mins from.

[ProEye]

Originally Posted by kdm31091

A hurricane is kind of like an extreme version of just general stormy weather. Lots of pounding rain, huge winds, mostly sums it up. It's just huge winds and rain and such that cause massive damage often because of flooding or the winds knocking down trees/branches.

I'm most scared of tornadoes, then earthquakes, then hurricanes. It seems to me - and don't flame me - that most of the time, hurricanes cause the least death. I'm not talking about in extreme hurricanes, but more average ones. Tornadoes cause more deaths and earthquakes cause a lot of them too. So I'm most worried about tornadoes & earthquakes. Hurricanes, don't stress too much.

You do realize that hurricanes often spawn tornadoes right?

I also don't think there is such a thing as an average hurricane. You might be thinking of the downgraded version--the tropical storm. 74 miles per hour is pretty destructive. Might not be as much death but read below.

The thing that causes the most damage in a hurricane is the storm surge. The energy of the storm literally pushes water on shore. Not quite the same as what happened in Indonesia during the tidal wave but it can be quite destructive.

The reason that there isn't as much death in the U.S. from hurricanes is for one really big reason: We can anticipate the path and timing of arrival of the storm so we can get out of the way, i.e. you can see it coming. Can't always anticipate a tornado and we often have no idea when earthquakes will strike. Believe me: Hurricanes in third world countries have killed millions of people. Tornadoes probably kill more Americans but hurricanes kill WAY more third world citizens.

[Wyoming53]

Down in Tampa, well actually the suburbs of Tampa, like Riverview, Gib Town and such. They have reflector tap and signs on telephone poles.

First line says, "If we have a cat 1 hurricane, this is how deep the water will be from storm surge". And so on. It's kind of disheartening to look way up the pole and see a sign that says, "If we have a cat 5 hurricane, this is how deep the water will be from storm surge". These are on random poles all around the area. That cat 5 sign is about 30 feet above where you are driving. Then you look over at the houses there and realize, they will be completely under water. No roofs sticking out, Completely gone, under water.