Oklahoma law concerning illegal immigrants

[catfish]

Oklahoma law concerning illegal immigrants
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One of the toughest state laws targeting illegal immigrants takes
effect Thursday in Oklahoma, prompting efforts by immigrants trying to block
it and work by state agencies to comply.

The law makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegal immigrants.
Businesses, which are barred by federal law from hiring illegal immigrants,
can be sued by a legal worker who is displaced by an illegal one.

The measure denies illegal immigrants certain public benefits such as
rental assistance and fuel subsidies.






http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...igLaw1029.html

[deeptrance]

Originally Posted by catfish

Businesses, which are barred by federal law from hiring illegal immigrants, can be sued by a legal worker who is displaced by an illegal one.

Well, at least ONE state has figured out how to deal with this issue. In Texas it's virtually illegal to be an American citizen and a landscaper or carpenter (unless you're the business owner who hires all the illegals.) These jobs used to pay well, but now they hardly pay anything. Then we hear garbage about how "we need them to do the jobs Americans don't want to do." Yeah, we won't do those jobs at the pay rates that illegals get. Duh.

It's as if they made a requirement that everyone in an industry has to speak fluent Spanish and have relatives who live in Mexico. Then they tell us "We need the immigrants to do those jobs because Americans won't do them."

[Wyoming53]

Is it going to be like all the rest of the immegration laws? Not enforced?

I'll be curious to see how tis works out. I'm hoping the state isn't doing like most have and bragging about how tough their books are and then they set back on their hands and don't do a damn thing.

We'll see what happens. Hopefully, it works.

[Panterro]

Ahh but it will be because it puts the power in the people and not the state.. If I feel displaced by an illegal worker, I can sue.

I also hope the learn how to stop giving them pubic assistance such as food stamps and so forth too. GO OKLAHOMA!

[Wyody]

I think my question is related - if not, sorry.
Back in ... was it the 70's? Or 80's? ... anyhow, when that Spanish fellow managed to get the migrant-workers unionized, was this entire issue not addressed? I mean, it was all about them being here legally but not being paid right or treated right. I was living in the West at the time but not so "up" on the issue - so, when 53 wonders if it will be unenforced like the other ones ... is there already a program in place that simply needs to be enforced? Or, is this as Pan mentions - a program put in the wrong hands?
I'm pretty much for the Okie law - but I would not deny shelter or a meal to someone who needs it. I remember once, wandering the desert on the other side of the Rio Grande (on foot), the number of strangers who fed and watered me along the way ... without me even asking - and this while I spoke scarcely a word of Spanish. This was a month-long walk and I was never mistreated or robbed or arrested - I feel I owe a bit in return.
Thanks for bringing me "up-to-snuff" on the new.

[Panterro]

I was thinking about this.. and I have something that concerns me, being a business owner myself.. This law may open a huge hole in the legal system and flood it with law-suits. I apply for a job I am not qualified for, I am denied, I sue saying I was not hired because of some illegal. I loose oh well, I tried, but there is a record now of them hiring illegals even if they dont. I Win, I get paid and a good company suffers and has to close down.

Humm..

[isabel]

Actually Wyody, the Okie law was misused as you can read below. At the time "indigent" was illegal apparently. Any law can be miss used. Usually a law has to be refined over time. There should also be a "law" against accusing someone/company and a fine to the accuser if the case isn't proven. I guess the company could turn around and sue the individual in return, for court fees and cost of the case.

Izzy

California's "Anti-Okie Law"
In 1937, California passed the so-called "Anti-Okie Law" (Section 2615 St. 1937, p. 1406) which stated, "Every person, firm or corporation, or officer or agent thereof that brings or assists in bringing into the State any indigent person who is not a resident of the State, knowing him to be an indigent person, is guilty of a misdemeanor," The statute was eventually overturned in 1941 by Edwards v. California (314 U.S. 160). Edwards had brought his brother-in-law from Texas to California and was convicted and sent to prison for six months.
[edit]Modern usage

It has been said that some Oklahomans who stayed and lived through the Dust Bowl see the Okie migrants as being quitters who fled Oklahoma; but there is hardly a native Oklahoman who does not have some family member who made the trip. Most Oklahoma natives are as proud of their Okies who made good in California as are the Okies themselves—and of the Arkies, West Texans, and others who were cast in with them.[2]
In the later half of the twentieth century, there became increasing evidence that any pejorative meaning of the term "Okie" was changing; former and present "Okies" began to apply the label as a badge of honor and symbol of the Okie survivor attitude.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okie

[Wyody]

While I didn't know anything about it, Izzy, my mother moved from Portland, OR to Oklahoma sometime in the later 60's and managed to eke out a living and life there. Two sisters and their families are still down there. I almost moved there - made the attempt but it only lasted a month. Some of the best and cheapest restaurant food going! The fare and the prices reminded me very much of areas around Nashville ... except for more Okra.
I doubt I could withstand the high-temps and for some reason, my wife fears tornadoes. It was enjoyable while I was in Oklahoma City - watching three and four tornadoes in the skies at the same time with choppers (copters) zooming right up next to them to transmit the video.
It is also a state now basically run by Native Americans - which is ironic since most were herded that way against their will. It remains, however, a right-wing state politically and the social-structure of the cities is still set by either the vast number or whites or the fanatical, pentecostal-ish factions ... which I will presume are also mostly white. Not exactly my cup of tea if I'm looking for a progressive area ... which I always am. I'm mostly white but will be the first to admit - we can't do almost nothin' right! (sic)
Thanks for the info.

[isabel]

My dad's family was from Rocky, Oklahoma and Boyd, Texas. I will go through some of the family photos and maybe post some this week.

Izzy

[Panterro]

My Grandmothers family settled in Kansas city, and then migrated to Tulsa OK. As a kid we made many trips up there.. mostly for funerals.

I have to admit I am not too crazy about tornadoes either... and that is one reason I don't move in that area. Hurricanes are one thing.. tornadoes are another. I also am not fond of earth quakes.. one reason I don't live in Cali.

My sister was working blocks away when ol'Timothy blew up that federal building.. knocked windows out in her office. Her ex-husband and sons still live there.. she is now in Spokane WA.

Oklahoma is a cool place.. free ways are a little weird.. stop lights on the on-ramps takes some getting used too.